ATS' Choice Poll: SANDERS or TRUMP?

a reply to: zazzafrazz

And who exactly is threatening take their retirement and 401K?

Sanders is. His War on Wall Street will take money out of those accounts. Directly effecting of millions of American middle class and retirees that have them.

berniesanders.com...

berniesanders.com...

For a true socialist utopia. Wall Street can not exist.

On topic:

Voting NONE of the ABOVE again.

a reply to: neo96

Could you quote where in the articles you have linked it says Sanders will take their retirement and 401K?

After reading your links I like Sanders even more! thanks!

a reply to: AlaskanDad

I already did.

Take the break up the largest financial institutions. Which means the bank STOCKS that are held in those IRA's and 401ks become virtually WORTHLESS.

That means they are essentially wiped out.

There goes your retirement.

a reply to: neo96

For a true socialist utopia. Wall Street can not exist.

That is exactly right!

Because Wall Street is corrupt. Like casinos - it's a rigged game: the HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.

Never mind the "commoners" - Wall Street ignores and leaves out the workers altogether.....
Wall Street enfranchises ONLY THE SHAREHOLDERS and the CEOs and your precious "rich people."

If the "stock market" is allowed to continue as it is, it will not only torture and take advantage of (like it has so far), it will DESTROY the people like you and me who pay our taxes, get pissed off about the high cost of living and the low wages, don't think the banks should have been bailed out......etc.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN HOW LOBBYISTS work the Legislators......
Well - like "me" anyway - I don't know if you share those values. But I will tell you for certain that if things keep going the way they are under this current SYSTEM, 'things' will implode.

So - vote for Bernie.
You'll be glad you did.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Because Wall Street is corrupt. Like casinos - it's a rigged game: the HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.

Why ?

Because Sanders 'says' so ?

LOL.

I vote NONE of the above.

a reply to: neo96

No - because that is what gambling is.

You just now knowing that FACT is not my fault.

But, I'll repeat it.....

it is NO DIFFERENT than lobbyists in government. It is a RIGGED GAME.

You and I DO NOT MATTER TO THEM. Wouldn't you like to matter? I would like to matter.
That's why I'm voting for Bernie.

nvm

Too bad Sanders will never come close to a nomination and Trump is already on the verge of being pushed out of the GOP.

America is going to have Bush + Clinton and will never be able to turn the country around.

a reply to: Konduit

Are you saying that because you think he doesn't have enough support among the electorate, or because Clinton will use corruption to "win"?

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

A little bit of both. Sanders might be considered the real Dem candidate from people who are politically informed and don't support the establishment, just like people who supported Ron Paul for the GOP.

Unfortunately he is nowhere to be seen on the front stage when it comes to debates and being promoted by the party and the MSM, so the majority of the public will have no idea who he is or what he represents.

DRUDGE POLL give the Debate to Sanders.

SANDERS 60.71% (43,315 votes)


O'MALLEY 31.49% (22,465 votes)


CLINTON 7.8% (5,568 votes)


Total Votes: 71,348

drudgereport.com...

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

A little bit of both. Sanders might be considered the real Dem candidate from people who are politically informed and don't support the establishment, just like people who supported Ron Paul for the GOP.

Unfortunately he is nowhere to be seen on the front stage when it comes to debates and being promoted by the party and the MSM, so the majority of the public will have no idea who he is or what he represents.

That's the way it looks ....NOW but I predict the MSM will start paying attention to Sanders and let Trump fall by the wayside, because they know what the plan is. Trump is on the verge of bailing and will no longer be the focus of attention.

Contrived political theater at its finest.

Sanders will be attacked by the Right Wing; seen as a come from behind underdog and get the nomination.

Sanders.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Sanders won it hands down.
Not even a doubt.

a reply to: olaru12

I highly doubt it, Trump is currently the clear front runner in the election and is getting more popular by the day, whether you like it or not. The problem with Sanders is that he is too limp-wristed to speak out directly against the party and will be forced on the sidelines just like Ron Paul in the GOP.

It's sad but true.

a reply to: Konduit

Ah, right, the clear front runner that loses to Sanders in every poll, including the ATS one. Makes sense.
Personally, I don't place much stock in polls... But I truly cannot imagine Trump beating Sanders in a general election.

Oh, and you say he's limp-wristed? He's filing a lawsuit against the DNC and demanding a third-party audit...
There's a difference between being limp-wristed, and not being a loud and obnoxious blowhard like Trump.

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

How delusional are you?

He isn't winning in ONE SINGLE poll:

Source

Clinton is +30 over Sanders currently and Sanders has never, not once, in any national poll, been ahead of Clinton.

Now I understand you are saying Trump loses to Sanders, but only in one poll does Sanders win Source. All other polls have it as a statistical tie.

Something you need to understand though is that while Sanders has attacked Trump, Trump doesn't care about Sanders currently because Sanders has no chance of winning the nomination. If Sanders were a legitimate threat Trump would be attacking him. Notice he didn't go after Cruz until Cruz threatened his position. As soon as he went after Cruz, Cruz dropped in the polls and Trump put a choke hold on his top spot.

I guarantee if Sanders makes ground on Hilary Trump will go after him.

Here is the FINAL TALLY as of this post:
SANDERS: 60
TRUMP: 44

Note: I had to take 1 vote away from Sanders, as another thread points out they changed their vote to Hillary.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I wish we could know how many of those who voted are actually from the USA.

I know Sanders is huge in Europe and Canada, luckily they don't get to vote here.

TRUMP.