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posted on Dec, 14 2015 @ 11:36 PM
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Lately there have been a few threads on Islamic terrorist plots being foiled. I think they are an attempt to prove the admin is wrong for letting them in and somehow proves the vetting process does not work.

Buuut..does it not prove that the admin is doing it's job well enough that they are able to stop tragedies before they are happening?

It is crazy, how the anti Obama minds work. Stop ten or nine plots no credit for stopping them and in fact it somehow proves they are not doing their job. One gets through the cracks ( an American born one) and it somehow proves that allowing refugees in the country is a major threat.

Ten or more mass shooting attacks by mentally ill people gaining access to guns and that side says there is no need to be hasty about laws regarding guns but one radical does something and that side calls for extreme actions to be done and that all Muslims are a threat.

And apparently one is for the safety of fellow Americans and the other...well who cares about fellow Americans as long as I have mine.

Crazy...




posted on Dec, 14 2015 @ 11:47 PM
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Confusion makes all the difference.




posted on Dec, 14 2015 @ 11:48 PM
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Lately there have been a few threads on Islamic terrorist plots being foiled. I think they are an attempt to prove the admin is wrong for letting them in and somehow proves the vetting process does not work.


There is a MASSIVE problem right now.

The administration IS wrong.



Fearing a civil liberties backlash and "bad public relations" for the Obama administration, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson refused in early 2014 to end the secret U.S. policy that prohibited immigration officials from reviewing the social media messages of all foreign citizens applying for U.S. visas, according to a former senior department official.


abcnews.go.com...

Once again POLITICS trumps this nations best interests.

Forget that crap.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:02 AM
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September 11, 2001

The mantra was "Never Forget".

Well, 15 short years later. And, we ask people on a form "Are you a Terrorist"?

Really ? I wonder how many answered yes ?

I submit we have done every thing we can to forget the lessons of 911.

The chickens have come home to roost....Indeed



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:03 AM
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a reply to: neo96

An interesting article:

www.cheriberens.net...



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:07 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

There is absolutely no way to know how many more are in this country.

The DHS whose job is suppose to 'protect' us from threats both foreign and domestic shirk their job and put politics ahead of national security interests.

The entire lot of them are traitors, and charges should be filed.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: whyamIhere




I submit we have done every thing we can to forget the lessons of 911.


That is the TRUTH.

And they know full well the threat that is out there.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: theonenonlyone

We have laws about who can own guns. None of the new proposals would have stopped these events. Why make laws that don't solve problems?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:14 AM
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originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: theonenonlyone

We have laws about who can own guns. None of the new proposals would have stopped these events. Why make laws that don't solve problems?


Apparently all gun owners are a threat.

That's why we 'need' more gun laws.

Pay no attention that the SB attackers passed background checks, and used a straw buyer.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 02:12 AM
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a reply to: theonenonlyone

Te security services only stop the attacks that they are not controlling.
It is a proven fact that all terrorist groups in Europe between 1940 and 1990 were NATO CIA and Military operations research operation gladio,also watch Kay Griggs on youtube she alleges Lee Harvey Oswald was US military as well as Jeffrey dahmer and timothy McVeigh.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: neo96


Apparently all gun owners are a threat.




How did I know you would get something different than what was said...


Remember when I said read and then reread before replying?

You somehow think that any attempts at trying to make sure that mentally ill people don't have access to guns is somehow referring to all gun owners and think that you fall under that category.

If you think that effects you somehow, doesn't that say something about you?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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You somehow think that any attempts at trying to make sure that mentally ill people don't have access to guns is somehow referring to all gun owners and think that you fall under that category.


Keep pushing the same nonsense.

Repeated once more According to TWO federal LAWS 'nut cases' are VERBOTEN from gun ownership.

WHAT MORE do you want ?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: neo96

And I will say this again, something needs to change because those laws are obviously not working.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: theonenonlyone
a reply to: neo96

And I will say this again, something needs to change because those laws are obviously not working.



So if the law isn't working just make new ones? Why not evaluate why they are not working so they can be fixed? The leftist answer, no matter the problem or if we understand how to correct the problem, is always more laws.

I would think if you take the problem seriously you would want to evaluate why the law isn't working rather than just use 'guess and check' legislation on it. That's how we end up with stupid laws like the 'assault' weapons ban. A bunch of people with no clue throwing legislation against the wall to see what sticks.




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