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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: peskyhumans
Jesus didn't leave a skeleton. He ascended.


Any source aside from the Bible that recorded this supposed ascension?


NO.


In fact all of the stories in the NT that claim it happened were not even written by the people who supposedly were there.




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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additionally, the earthquake, being attributable nominally to a natural phenomenon may turn up in some record or another if it hasn't already. and whether authorities attribute to it a natural cause or not, like the darkness; the coincidence is difficult to explain away. Particulary if accounts of the earthquake do turn out to exist too.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: peskyhumans
Jesus didn't leave a skeleton. He ascended.


Any source aside from the Bible that recorded this supposed ascension?


NO.


In fact all of the stories in the NT that claim it happened were not even written by the people who supposedly were there.
Ah... horscht Kritic. (see resurrection really is real.) Horscht Kritic died a ingnomius death quite some time ago. And yet here it is: risen from the grave of really bad logic and shoddy scholarship.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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That school of biblical criticism made much of the dates of the earliest extant texts. for a time it was reputable but history caught up with it as earlier and earlier extant copies were discovered. for example the earliest extant copy of the gospel of john and of revelation eventually overlapped the life span of John of Patmos. Like wise fragmentary bits of the scroll of Isaiah were found that falsified the Horscht Kritic arguments along those lines (That Isaiah wasn't written by Isaiah.) as far as the other Gospels the current state of the art has the earliest extant copies slightly after the deaths of their attributed authors; which means even if they did not write them thier proteges whom they tutored most certainly could have. and as i said today's earliest extant copies are tommorow's not quite the oldest extant copies. thus did the Horscht Kritic school died a well deserved death due to presumtousness and arrogance.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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something like two thirds of the NT was written by Paul. While the Gospels suffered under Horscht Kritic for a time the same cannot be said for the writings of Paul.

so if the above poster is really arguing that Paul did not write most of the new testament then he is pretty much alone in that vein.

(did i mention that Horscht Kritic sucks big green donkey bottoms?)
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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Dupe
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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Saw that illustration years and years ago. Why's it new again?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Saw that illustration years and years ago. Why's it new again?
Someone thought it an opportunity to rub Christian's faces in something. that or they just now found it.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Matter of fact the NT wasn't even written. The NT was made by robots all trying to spread the word of a carpenter teaching crazy stuff like "turning the other cheek" and "loving your neighbor" "giving to the poor"

all with the aim of global world domination



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: stormbringer1701




something like two thirds of the NT was written by Paul


Paul never met Jesus.

In fact all of the stories in the NT that claim it happened were not even written by the people who supposedly were there.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Saw that illustration years and years ago. Why's it new again?
Someone thought it an opportunity to rub Christian's faces in something. that or they just now found it.


How's that rubbing a Christians face in something by showing what Christ most likely looked like, rather than the lily white, blond hair, blue eyed guy with a swimmers' body? If he did exist he was probably gay too since most stories have him always palling around with twelve other guys. You are way too sensitive. Face it, he probably looked more like Mohammad than he would resemble Dolph Lundgren.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701
additionally, the earthquake, being attributable nominally to a natural phenomenon may turn up in some record or another if it hasn't already. and whether authorities attribute to it a natural cause or not, like the darkness; the coincidence is difficult to explain away. Particulary if accounts of the earthquake do turn out to exist too.


Big "if". Ya, a storm cloud passing by the sun at 3:00 on Good Friday must really be a sign from an angry God.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: stormbringer1701




something like two thirds of the NT was written by Paul


Paul never met Jesus.

In fact all of the stories in the NT that claim it happened were not even written by the people who supposedly were there.

I direct your attention to the gospel of John. You err. additionally the other gospels while extant copies do not currently overlap the lives of the authors (and that may change) are very close to contemporary to the reputed authors. This means even if subsequent discoveries do not move the extant dates as happened with John, then certainly these men could have dictated them orally to their immediate successors. Furthermore Paul who wrote much of the new testament interacted in person with the original disciples/apostles and their subordinate apostles or their successors some of whom also authored books of the NT. Were Paul to be a fraud then Peter and the others would have said so and the Pauline books would not mesh with the non Pauline books of the NT as they do.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: stormbringer1701

The NT stories do not mesh. They contradict each other.

The fact still remains none of the stories were directly written by people who witnessed the life of Jesus.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: stormbringer1701
additionally, the earthquake, being attributable nominally to a natural phenomenon may turn up in some record or another if it hasn't already. and whether authorities attribute to it a natural cause or not, like the darkness; the coincidence is difficult to explain away. Particulary if accounts of the earthquake do turn out to exist too.


Big "if". Ya, a storm cloud passing by the sun at 3:00 on Good Friday must really be a sign from an angry God.
I have been through many storms. i do not think such an occurrence would be of note to be written about. the cloud explanation is mere speculation like every other explanation since those who put it forward weren't there. some attributed it to an eclipse as well. until it was figured out that that cannot happen on passover because it requires a new moon.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: stormbringer1701

The NT stories do not mesh. They contradict each other.

The fact still remains none of the stories were directly written by people who witnessed the life of Jesus.
So john does not count?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Matthew,Mark,Luke and John were eyewitnesses of Yeshua/Jesus and His
ministry,crucifixion, and resurrection.There were other witnesses as well.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:29 PM
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you know the wiki says mark is the oldest of the gospels. (and this is disregarding the fact that John's writings are now known to indeed be contemporaneous with is life) earliest extant copy was written 70 AD. that means 30 some years after the end of Christ's ministry and his death and resurrection. Which means unless you have evidence mark dies earlier than this and that he did not transmit his version of the Gospel to immediate successors your argument is questionable.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: Grimpachi

Matthew,Mark,Luke and John were eyewitnesses of Yeshua/Jesus and His
ministry,crucifixion, and resurrection.There were other witnesses as well.
see my desciption of the Horscht Kritic argument about extant texts. Scoffers think that the current earliest available extant texts are in fact the earliest texts which is ridiculous. And the history of finding texts or text fragments that are even earlier proves this.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 12:34 PM
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It is told in a first person, but there is no evidence that it was written by that person.

The story is at least told in first person sense.

It has some great exaggerations so it is a bit easier to read. For example, Jesus does not just turn water into wine, he turns it into 150 gallons of wine! Jesus does not just give sight to a blind man, he gives sight to a man born blind! Jesus does not just raise a person from the dead, he raises one who has been dead and even buried for four days, one who is still bound in grave clothes and one who, according to the King James translation "already stinketh" with the odor of decaying flesh!
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