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Ancient Aliens are Dark Forces

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posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 11:58 PM
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a reply to: randyvs

I do already, is called agnosticism. It allows for me to keep a healthy dose of skepticism for all things, to never go all in, and be open to being wrong and adjust as I gain more input from the world around me. I base my decisions on what seems most likely, while recognizing how ultimately ignorant my human senses make me, thus remaining open to new possibilities.

Addendum: As for having more to offer? Why do I need to? What's wrong with accepting that one does not and cannot know the ultimate truth?

Why does there need to be an answer provided? If one doesn't know something, that's perfectly fine. There is naught more humble than the admittance of ignorance, and naught more arrogant and prideful than he who refuses to accept their own.

So many claim to "know" the truth, and too many willing to kill because their "truth" is at odds with another's.
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posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 11:59 PM
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I disagree.
There is nothing simple about humans and what they do for and to each other.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:01 AM
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to never go all in,


Then I guess you'd call me a gambler.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: Phage

God knows you have every right to do that Phage. Would I be asking for your
brains to fall out, if I asked you to keep an open mind at least?



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:06 AM
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I have no problem with you being a gambler as long as it stays personal and goes no further. The world is filled with too many deaths because people decide that others lives are perfectly good chips to bet for their gamble.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:07 AM
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I try.
But both "ancient aliens" and "dark forces" sort of make that happen equally. The falling out part, I mean.


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posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:10 AM
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As for having more to offer? Why do I need to? What's wrong with accepting that one does not and cannot know the ultimate truth?


Because there's only one ultimate truth. It can't be that hard to know it.
If you look you will find.

Consider this:



At the end of this race, there is only one truth for you to know about this race.
It's the same in life. no difference at all.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:12 AM
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It's the same in life. no difference at all.

So, the first one to the finish line, the first one to die. Wins?



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:13 AM
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There is one ultimate truth, but to "know" it requires omniscience, a thing for which no human can possess. No matter how much you want to believe otherwise, whatever ultimate truth you believe is a story passed down by another, or that created by your own faulty human perceptions.

Without omniscience, you can never truly know.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:19 AM
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You do know you're going to die right Phage?
The book says it is a fool who says there is no God,
the comes death ( you can't deny that much ) then
judgement. And all that happens to fast for us Phage.
I hope for you my friend.
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posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:21 AM
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A threat of damnation does a bad faith make.

Any can make threats, those who follow not their faith will suffer.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Phage

You do know your going to die right Phage.
Yes.


The book says it is a fool who says there is no God,
Your Book says a bunch of stuff.


I hope for you my friend.
If you hope that I will be "saved" by acknowledging your Lord, you hope in vain. If you hope I live a fulfilled life, I thank you and wish you the same.


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posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:23 AM
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So, the first one to the finish line, the first one to die. Wins?


I'm try'n be serious here Phage! But you make me laugh !
I hope you find your way amigo. And you're right, it does say a bunch of stuff.
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posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:26 AM
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There is one ultimate truth, but to "know" it requires omniscience, a thing for which no human can possess. No matter how much you want to believe otherwise, whatever ultimate truth you believe is a story passed down by another, or that created by your own faulty human perceptions.

Without omniscience, you can never truly know.



No knowledge is unknowable.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:34 AM
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All knowledge is unknowable, for no thing can be known in it's entirety, only a snap shot of a piece of the whole.

You can "know" an effect, but even then, is only in the immediate. You never know all that transpired to create that effect, nor can you know all that will transpire because of it. Even what you know of the effect is only a minor part of the whole picture. A horse win's a race, but do you know the horse that won that race? I mean really know the horse? Every injury? Every organism that exists in the horse now or has in the past? The horses heritage to make him the horse that won said race? Do you know all who bet on the horse? Do you know what the effect will have on those who both won and lost the bet? How about the jockey that rode the horse? The ones that rode the losing horses?

You've seen a horse that won a race, but when it comes right down to it, what you know about that moment in time is minuscule to the ultimate truth of that moment. In the end you know so little you might as well say you know nothing.



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:38 AM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Vector99

Him telling you would obliterate your sinful ass.
Be careful what you ask for and don't be so ignorant.


That's not very Christian of you to say. Is that how God would want you representing him? And where does it say "obliterate your sinful ass" in the bible? I've never heard that passage before?



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:38 AM
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Let me ask you did you come here to straighten me out about something?
Surely you know better. Or maybe you were curious? Maybe you're not
completely comfortable with what you think about such things?
You are all alone with what you believe you do know that right?



posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:42 AM
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I speak the truth in a more carnel way.
If God has an issue with that I'm sure I will have to face
up to it. You should be more concerned with the messege.
Not how who presents it. It's not for you to judge.
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posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:47 AM
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I know I'm not about to "straighten you out" and I don't think I or anyone else is capable of doing so. I entered the thread to state my (comfortable) position that we humans, and we humans alone, are responsible for all of the good things that we have done and all of the bad things we have done. Please reread my initial post if you doubt that.

No. I am not alone.

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posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 12:50 AM
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You've decided what you believe for yourself.
Just because others have decided the same thing doesn't
mean you aren't alone. You truly are.
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