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Trump is a democrat secret agent...(BBC).

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posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: jheated5

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: jheated5
Shouldn't this be in the Jokes forum? People on ATS have been getting more afraid of Trump as his numbers keep growing, reeks of desperation...


The only emotion I feel about this entire Trump business is sadness. It's sad that so many people lack the basic though process' needed to understand Trump is the tool being used to play all of you like fools.


Aww yes because your side of the party line isn't playing any of you or their voter base as fools smh.... You act like we care...


Was there an intelligent counterpoint somewhere in that post that I can respond to? And what the hell does smh mean? Is that some text-talk gibberish for people that don't speak proper English?


Come on thats out the trump play book. Insulting deflecing gibberish.

Intelligent counterpoints are not amoung trumps skills.




posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

And trump supporters reek of cowardliness , ignorance and knee jerk reactions.


And I have had my suspicions to what the OP is saying.

He is there to act like fascist bat # crazy pig to make the two preferable candidates of the TPTB hillary and bush seem more paletble. Seems its worked to well or they underestimated the stupidity of the voteing public.


And he does a good job of preventing anyone from discussing reasonable solutions to a lot of problems. He sets it up with his broad, crass, extreme ideas, and Obama knocks it all down by ridiculing him and his supporters, paving the way for him to push his own unreasonable ideas without consideration for the majority of voters.

I am sure Trump is killing a lot of birds with one stone.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: jheated5
Shouldn't this be in the Jokes forum? People on ATS have been getting more afraid of Trump as his numbers keep growing, reeks of desperation...


What? No.

The only way this works for the democrats is if Trump is nominated. Think about it.

You have two communities, each of them are to pick a champion to face off in a chess game.

The first group, the Lefticles, choose their champion through a series of board game challenges and the winner is a person who would be reasonably good at chess.

The second group, the Righticles, choose their champion by who can shout about the game the loudest. The winner is hated by most of the other Righticle challengers. The result is a champion who is great at insulting the other players but is never coached on how to play.

When the two champions face off, the Lefticle will be relatively familiar with the game of chess while the tactics the Righticle used to get nominated do nothing to help win a chess game.

This is why Trump winning the nomination is an instant win for Democrats. The skills needed to win the GOP nomination in today's GOP environment are not the same skills needed to win the presidency.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

Trump could also break from republicans, run as an independent, and split the conservative vote so badly that democrats would win with a mandate.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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So does anyone actually think he is not a agent to make sure Hilary Clinton gets in next year?.


If the choice comes down to Trump or Clinton.

IMO the country would choose CLinton.

God help us all.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: neo96


So does anyone actually think he is not a agent to make sure Hilary Clinton gets in next year?.


If the choice comes down to Trump or Clinton.

IMO the country would choose CLinton.

God help us all.


Call it her trump card



Seriously I think the clinton and bush clans knew the public would never have let another one into office as it stood so used Trump to sanitise them and make them seem more paletble, IE we know you dont want to vote for us but if you dont this fascist could get in.
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posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

I don't know what the hell is going on.

Trump,Clinton,Sanders,Bush. etc

It's like the country has lost it's mind.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

I don't know what the hell is going on.

Trump,Clinton,Sanders,Bush. etc

It's like the country has lost it's mind.


This is what the two parties have offered and people still feel party loyalty. I don't get the hold these parties have over people.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

I don't know what the hell is going on.

Trump,Clinton,Sanders,Bush. etc

It's like the country has lost it's mind.


The message seems pretty clear to me.

People don't want another lying lowlife Politician pointing their thumb at us.

People completely reject DC and their 20 Trillion Dollar Cash Deficit.

So, if you are in Office now. Or, in the past decade you lived in DC.

You are not going to be President.

Honestly, the only person that I think would lose to Hillary is...Jeb



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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The thing is what Trump knows and the Clintons do not is Trump now plans to win
and then go Na Na Na Na Naaaa at them and blow as raspberry.
Then the rest of the world annexes the USA just to make sure he can't get out.

Whatever happens it sure is entertaining
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I half hope he does get in for the giggles.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

I don't know what the hell is going on.

Trump,Clinton,Sanders,Bush. etc

It's like the country has lost it's mind.


This is what the two parties have offered and people still feel party loyalty. I don't get the hold these parties have over people.


It is simple. As long as the opposing party backs policies that the voter doesn't want, that voter will be too scared to vote third-party because they know the that will ensure the opposing party's victory.

It is a monopoly they know is unbeatable. They don't have to offer their own voters anything worth while but instead only need to offer things that scare the other party's voters.

Genius. Evil. Effective.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

I don't know what the hell is going on.

Trump,Clinton,Sanders,Bush. etc

It's like the country has lost it's mind.


This is what the two parties have offered and people still feel party loyalty. I don't get the hold these parties have over people.


It is simple. As long as the opposing party backs policies that the voter doesn't want, that voter will be too scared to vote third-party because they know the that will ensure the opposing party's victory.

It is a monopoly they know is unbeatable. They don't have to offer their own voters anything worth while but instead only need to offer things that scare the other party's voters.

Genius. Evil. Effective.


Yes, this is true enough. But, I would still rather not vote at all than be an accessory to the crimes committed by two party candidates.

I do hear that tired old line, "If you don't vote, you have no room to complain." And to that I say, "If you vote republican or democrat, then you have no room to complain."



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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I can buy into a lot of theories, or at least think they may have some merit. This one isn't based in any reality. Just can't see Trump thinking he's not #1.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
I can buy into a lot of theories, or at least think they may have some merit. This one isn't based in any reality. Just can't see Trump thinking he's not #1.


There's a lot of reality in Trump's lifeling political record that suggests this theory is meritorious.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

I don't know what the hell is going on.

Trump,Clinton,Sanders,Bush. etc

It's like the country has lost it's mind.


This is what the two parties have offered and people still feel party loyalty. I don't get the hold these parties have over people.


It is simple. As long as the opposing party backs policies that the voter doesn't want, that voter will be too scared to vote third-party because they know the that will ensure the opposing party's victory.

It is a monopoly they know is unbeatable. They don't have to offer their own voters anything worth while but instead only need to offer things that scare the other party's voters.

Genius. Evil. Effective.


Yes, this is true enough. But, I would still rather not vote at all than be an accessory to the crimes committed by two party candidates.

I do hear that tired old line, "If you don't vote, you have no room to complain." And to that I say, "If you vote republican or democrat, then you have no room to complain."



But you don't win that way, either. All that withholding your vote accomplishes is to help the scarier candidate win.

Again, they are well aware of this. Short of completely changing how the party, delegate, and election system works, this will never change. And guess who would have to vote on these changes? Elected officials that benefit form the Republican/Democrat binary system.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

I don't know what the hell is going on.

Trump,Clinton,Sanders,Bush. etc

It's like the country has lost it's mind.


This is what the two parties have offered and people still feel party loyalty. I don't get the hold these parties have over people.


It is simple. As long as the opposing party backs policies that the voter doesn't want, that voter will be too scared to vote third-party because they know the that will ensure the opposing party's victory.

It is a monopoly they know is unbeatable. They don't have to offer their own voters anything worth while but instead only need to offer things that scare the other party's voters.

Genius. Evil. Effective.


Yes, this is true enough. But, I would still rather not vote at all than be an accessory to the crimes committed by two party candidates.

I do hear that tired old line, "If you don't vote, you have no room to complain." And to that I say, "If you vote republican or democrat, then you have no room to complain."



But you don't win that way, either. All that withholding your vote accomplishes is to help the scarier candidate win.

Again, they are well aware of this. Short of completely changing how the party, delegate, and election system works, this will never change. And guess who would have to vote on these changes? Elected officials that benefit form the Republican/Democrat binary system.


i win at not being a willing accessory. No one belonging to the two parties cares about me, so I have to protect my conscience. I've voted my entire life, but I can proudly say I didn't vote for Bush or Obama. I don't want any part of their wars and profiteering.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 08:10 PM
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You know that’s an excellent idea for a book or movie.

A guy like Trump gets called to a secret meeting of A group of sinister power brokers who enlist him to run and destabilize the GOP.

Talk crazy they tell him, make wild claims, insult people and whole groups of minorities, generally make a dam fool of himself and draw negativity to the GOP culture.

BUT DON’T ACTUALLY WIN!

Lo and behold, like the prizefighter in the movie Pulp Fiction (who forgets to take a dive) Trump starts to like what he’s doing. And it turns out that he is way ahead in the polls… so what the hell… he starts to forget his mission and his head swells and he abandons the secret power brokers and is actually trying to win!


Good idea for a movie or book?

....Or is this really how it is behind the scenes in the dark

If it is,Trump better watch his back if he double-crosses those powerful people behind him

Of course I’m a writer who just may write this story, a short story probably.

First, though, lest see how this turns out

Meanwhile, keep tuning in; the story is unfolding before our eyes

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edit on 12-12-2015 by Willtell because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 08:22 PM
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This is a very viable possibility because Bill Clinton is, according to some conspiracy theorists, the heir to George H Bush, who is supposed to be the elites hidden Caliphate, sort to speak.


In addition to that, Clinton has hobnobbed with some very, very powerful interests since his presidency so those two on a golf course could have made a powerful deal of mutual interests



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: boymonkey74

Of course, you are correct in posting this, Monkey King.

Hillary Clinton is your next president, fellow Americans.

It's wrapped up.

People should be flagging the # out of this.



The simple truth is, if Congress was doing its job, the Congress could set everything right.
It's not about El Presidente. It's about Congress.
The Congress has more power than the executive branch. Sure the President can sign or veto bills but the important point to remember is it all starts with Congress. REMEMBER . . .

Even if the president vetoes a bill, the Congress can override the veto.
We have to realize that the Congress encourages fixation on the President so they can pass the buck, blame what they are doing on the Executive branch.

Fact is, Presidents have no Constitutional authority to do most of the things they claim they can do.
They can only ask the Congress to do what they want.
The Congress could have stopped everything that's happening; the wars, the Wall Street takeover, the TRILLION DOLLAR defense budget they just passed.
Our so-called representatives have sold us out so many times it makes my head spin
It's a charade that hides the fact that no matter which party appears to be in power, there is an underlying continuity of agenda that moves forward regardless of which party "seems" to be in control.
In the next election the powers-that-be will do their best to take everyone's attention on the totally controlled presidential race.
Most everyone will ignore the heart of the problem, the Congress and become caught up in the presidential circus.



posted on Dec, 12 2015 @ 08:45 PM
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There are people we have elected to Congress who have been there 10, 20, 30, 40, even over 50 years!
Our Congress has been betraying our trust and selling us out for generations.
Senator John Glenn in which he said something to the effect, "If we had to apply the Constitution to all the legislation that passes before us, we wouldn't be able to pass anything."
Congress isn't engaged in actually producing goods or services (the bureaucracies that Congress has set up handle all government services). All Congress does is enact laws and authorize spending. It's just the legislative branch of government.
We could easily go without any new laws authored by "corporate/special interest" for quite some time

FIRE THEM! deliberately vote for an incumbent's strongest competitor in order to make sure the incumbent will be voted out of office. We need you to help us convince enough voters to Vote for America in the upcoming election, not a political party
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