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originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: miconATSrender
Wow you did a great job at reeling in the people who love being victims.
There are so many people who want to cringe in the corner while their family is raped and killed.
The caring, loving people who would not protect themselves or others.
It seems like they love it when women are raped and killed. They think it is unmanly for a woman to shoot and kill a rapist.
I will never understand the victim-nuts. They are so afraid of not being killed. It is crazy.
They might even be a survivor-phobe
WTF??? Is that sarcasm??? I can't tell sometimes around here. I keep saying we need a sarcasm font or something.
But you don't honestly believe anything you just wrote do you???
originally posted by: miconATSrender
There are so many people who want to cringe in the corner while their family is raped and killed.
The caring, loving people who would not protect themselves or others.
It seems like they love it when women are raped and killed. They think it is unmanly for a woman to shoot and kill a rapist.
I will never understand the victim-nuts. They are so afraid of not being killed. It is crazy.
They might even be a survivor-phobe
Not sarcasm.
Did something I write offend someone?
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: miconATSrender
I can most certainly conceive of the real fight. The real fight is being fought - right now - and it's being lost while gun nuts worry about their guns being stolen. The fourth amendment is being shredded, the TPP is slipping by . I support the constitution - yes, the whole thing - but I do not respect the people who only acknowledge and care about the second amendment.
If the situation is that a person wants a gun so they may protect their right to have a gun, it is not a good situation. If a person wishes to have a gun to protect themselves against a potential tyrannical government, they are delusional, but that is understandable. If they want a gun for home defense or hunting, I am fine with that.
I am glad you think you can conceive of a real fight, good to know. But no, the real fight has not started yet, just skirmishes in comparison.
I must have missed those posting that only cared about the 2nd and spit on the 4th. Guns are effects under the 4th. The 2nd protects the 4th and the 4th protects the 2nd. Guns are protected under the 4th. They are not mutually exclusive.
People have guns to protect all their rights, and that is a good situation.
The only delusion is believing any government loves you. Why would i only want to protect myself at home? That is ridiculous.
If the term gun nut refers to anyone who protects themselves and their loved ones, then that is nuts. If you refer to crazy, armed, law breaking, criminals, then it's apt and why I need one on me. Inside and outside of my home.
Oh and I don't hunt and hunting has nothing at all to do with the 2nd. And I am glad you are concerned about the 2nd and not just the 4th. Since the 2nd is being shredded too. That is how one can tell the government is tyrannical, and not just potentially. Would a non-tyrannical government shred your 4th?
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: miconATSrender
There are so many people who want to cringe in the corner while their family is raped and killed.
The caring, loving people who would not protect themselves or others.
It seems like they love it when women are raped and killed. They think it is unmanly for a woman to shoot and kill a rapist.
I will never understand the victim-nuts. They are so afraid of not being killed. It is crazy.
They might even be a survivor-phobe
Not sarcasm.
Did something I write offend someone?
I'm not offended but you may want to see a therapist soon.
To quote you:
"It seems like they love it when women are raped and killed. They think it is unmanly for a woman to shoot and kill a rapist. They are so afraid of not being killed."
You have to have some strange things happening where you are because the only one loving rape are rapists. Period. The part about fear of NOT being killed I don't even think that exists.
On reading it again do you not think that was some pretty heavy false claims to use??? Nobody likes rape accept for the attacker. You can't make someone into a rapist no matter how much of an anti gun person they are. There is zero ways to make a connection like that, think about it.
That kind of labeling of people is also a method of dehumanizing them. Being anti-gun, even in it's extreme forms is just as credible as pro-gun. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they enjoy their families being raped or that they cower in the corner if such a thing actually happened. It's ridiculous. Nobody is like what you describe.
. Take your ADD meds and read the whole post. I know it's long but I can wait... I said its also there to protect against generic bad people... There was a woman stabbed to death at a supermarket not far from where I live, so yeah I carry everywhere. Don't worry though I don't carry to save you...I carry so I can get through the door... Past the guy between my family and the exit...The second amendment was put in place to protect us from the government...thats the point of it. No, I do not want to kill people...I figured that was a good thing, but I will if forced into that situation... That is the point of the gun.
originally posted by: radarloveguy
originally posted by: elsafam357
Guns are there for hunting, and to (God forbid) allow us to rise up as a whole to defend ourselves from our government should they become more tyrannical than we can tolerate. Me personally, I carry a gun everywhere I go
So you wouldn't dream of using your gun against people .
But the Government's different somehow?
Paranoid much?
The government isn't hunting you , or your banjo .
Guns are for hunting ....and you carry it everywhere...
so what do you hunt at the supermarket ?
Tyrannical governments ?
Get yourself a mirror and look into it .
Delusional,paranoid,sociopathic ?.
You're a nervous wreck.
Your country needs to eliminate gangs and drugs .
In that order .
And this thread needs to go to RANT .
originally posted by: plaindoughnut
a reply to: dukeofjive696969
Wow. No. I don't want guns in this country and it has nothing to do with your asinine assumptions.
I'd also not like to have anyone who belives guns are a right to be in this country.
Kindly # yourself to death please.
It's sickening how people like you think you are super tough when you need a gun to feel your manliness. I bet even if you had a gun and were caught in a San Bernandino-type event you'd be one of the first to run.
originally posted by: miconATSrender
I need to see a therapist? Not the people who don't want women to be able to protect themselves from a rapist anywhere with a gun.
Not wanting to survive is a real thing, anyone who believes they live in a world without danger from psychopaths is delusional.
And if they do nothing and want everyone else to do nothing, then there you go, afraid of surviving.
No false claims were made.
And sure being anti-gun is fine as long as it is about ones self, not others. I am not lobbying to force everyone to have a gun, yet there are those lobbying to disarm others.
Guncontrolism: A pathology of the weak and fearful.
originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: chr0naut
I did not state that people who do not for what ever reason wish to carry a firearm are weak and fearful. I address another member that posted that I called such people cowards. That is not what I stated in my post and anyone that came away with that from my post read into it.
Guncontrolism: Is a pathology where the weak, and the fearful wish to use government (armed force) to disarm everyone but government because they are fearful of what firearms can do. The Guncontrolist has a physiological need to take away the right of self defense from everyone. This will not stop criminals from finding or making weapons. So when they find themselves in a situation of mortal danger from a criminal they are okay with dialing 911 and begging for help from government. They do not want to save themselves badly enough to train and prepare themselves for such situations.
I have trained in hand to hand combat since I was a child. I am often in situations where I can not be armed. When in close quarters I depend on my skills and mental preparation. I worked as a bouncer for a while at a night club. I was not allowed to be armed but handled many unruly people and deescalated violent situations on a daily basis. I never had to injure anyone. I also had to regularly disarm people who were carrying in the club which was against the rules. There are common sense rules for gun use that polite society has agreed upon. I am fine with that.
I also do not advocate for open carry in urban environments for the same reason. I think the guy that slings an AR-15 over his shoulder with a 30 round magazine fed into it and parades back and forth in front of a school is an insensitive self aggrandizing prick who is nothing but an attention whore.
My dad used to say "Look out for stupid because stupid is not looking out for you."