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originally posted by: KesleyJ
a reply to: ScepticScot
I really do not care or know anything about the BNP. You and the other commenter can omit the article and my comment stands, so move on from that.
Secondly, there is a great difference between Texas and Scotland. Texas has an independent, functioning government. Scotland does not. Texas willfully joined the U.S., not by force. Scotland's revolt was put down and joined because they couldn't win a war against the English, who considered them to be their subjects and get their own king back in power.
There are differences. Texas still has a governor, which is like a president. Creates and Has laws for itself, enforces its own laws, taxes its own citizens and has politicians that represent each region of Texas. I don't believe Scotland has any of this, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Your very name says ScepticScot, not ScepticBrit. Are you a Scottish Britain? I'm confused. What independence does Scotland retain after its joining with England?
originally posted by: rukia
a reply to: Shamrock6
lol I'm not crying for trump. Honestly, I don't really care. I just find people's hypocrisy irritating.
this thread isn't about Scotland. /quote]
You made it (very quickly) about Scotland. I read a bit of back and forth after the angst-driven OP between you and OtherSideoftheCoin about how you're not condemning Scotland with your OP, and continue to Scot-bash for most of your posts. Calling poo "not poo" when it's clearly poo doesn't fool anyone.
Anyway, needless to say I got bored reading people argue over whether Scotland is or isn't bigoted (the question simply posed by anyone who considers themselves 'american' being a joke unto itself) and decided to just respond to the post with a question that may have already been brought up and/or answered in the thread thus far:
Maybe folks in Scotland hate Trump because he went over there and kicked people out of house and home to make way for... a golf course. Like Scotland doesn't have enough golf courses already.
We are talking about a proud, war-opposing people here, who did not 'vote themselves out of independence' like you seem to believe. What you're talking about is the equivalent of using someone's hand to hit their own face and saying "stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself."
On the whole, I agree that it's just as bad to say "we don't want you here" to an individual is just as bad as saying it to a recognised group or organisation/religion, but in this case you're doing the exact same thing you accuse others of: ie being fooled into believing cleverly-worded right wing media and assuming therefore that you know enough about those you are condemning to do so guilt free.
You should go to Scotland. It's a beautiful and humble place.
Oh wait, I forgot it's RACIST to wear your national flag in the UK these days.
www.ibtimes.co.uk...
originally posted by: KesleyJ
a reply to: nonspecific
First of all, I can stay in this conversation, since the way Scotland works is not apart of this conversation.
Secondly, I was rubbing it in that America managed to free itself from the Crown and Scotland could not, while Australia, Canada and New Zealand never tried. That was my comment, the peculiarities of the UK system is not in any way a part of my comment.
At no point did you or Sceptic respond to my actual response of the topic which is that Islamophobia is not the same as racism. America is exceptional because we managed to free ourselves from the overlords. Nor my third comment, where you both focused on the BNP source, as if I cared, while ignoring my entire comment on Islam.
So, I think you're the one who shouldn't comment. Since, your comment consists of telling me not to comment. And yes, any information you can add on the current UK system would be welcomed.
originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
a reply to: ScepticScot
Same old, same old.
You can tell the yanks don't travel much.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Trump is an unashamed bigot and Scottish institutions wanting nothing to do with him is in no way bigotry.
originally posted by: Konduit
Disagree with someone's right to free speech... take away their education.
Sounds pretty fascist if you ask me, but then again this is coming from a country that voted against independence.