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NLBS 03.07: Radical Right Wing Terrorism; That's Right, We Said it.

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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Christian mean behave like Christ. He was sinless. He did not rape, murder, or do anything wrong
Muslim is to behave like Mohammad. He Raped a 9 year old, murdered lied, stold and cheated .
It sounds like dear is more like a muslim then a Christian. Maybe she should check her faith LOL


No true Scotsman.

Never fails.
No. Armenian from Turkey. We got out before the muslims slaughtered my people. Nope, Im not a Scotsman




posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: Wookiep


There is no PC movent which states you can't talk about christian extremism. I think many people disagree thats its some rampant plague like many (perhaps you?)keep insinuating. We had a single incident recently, Ill hand that to you even though I have my doubts he was christian.


Your lack of belief isn't surprising in the least but the objective truth exists despite your unwillingness to acknowledge it.

Christian extremism is definitely on the rise and I have been talking about it from before the Planned Parenthood attack (check my recent threads). I really don't feel like trying to explain all of this in depth in this post but you might care to do a bit of research into:

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)
Seven Mountains Dominionism (7MD)

Rousas Rushdoony
C. Peter Wagner
Lance Wallnau
Lou Engles
John P. Kelly

Ted Cruz, Rafael Cruz, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Mike Huckabee and now... Donald Trump (who just met with Wallnau and others in November) to name a few. Ted Cruz was raised in dominionism. That's just to get an idea of what this particular strain of evangelical extremism is about, there's a significant amount of cross pollination with other evangelicals.


This is similar to all the cries of rampant white on black racism, when really the opposite is what's seemingly the real prevalent issue.


Sure. It's similar in that you're simply repeating the politically correct version of reality promoted by conservatives. I don't blame you and I honestly hope that maybe you'll do a little digging into what I'm talking about instead of just dismissing me out of hand. Once you do, you may just realize that there is a rather large and growing extremist movement and then you'll have to question why you don't know that it exists.


I won"t stray into that, but i think to try and compare christian 'extremism' to muslim extremism, to even put them in the same class is ridiculous, and a lot of folks are frustrated with that accusation, it does't make christians or right wingers terrorists. All it does is piss people off.


Terrorism is not the most dangerous aspect of extremism, it's just the most discussed. What is really worrying is that possible of creeping theocracy. Essentially your problem with what I'm saying seems to be that you think I'm talking about all Christians (or even most Christians) and I AM NOT. These are specific groups, they have names and they have leaders (they even have websites — and podcasts, radio shows and TV shows). They hold conventions, they give speeches and their sermons are posted online in text and in video. They vet and promote candidates and contribute large amounts of money to elections.

I don't indiscriminately group all Christians together like you appear to be grouping all Muslims. This isn't a zero sum contest and I think that mistaken way of thinking about issues is a trap that leads people to constantly construct false dichotomies.


There are MILLIONS of black christians, and we know statistically that the majority of blacks are dems, are they terrorists too?


Again this isn't about how "Christianity is evil" nor would I say that there aren't extremist in and involved with the Democratic Party. Do yourself a favor and read up about what I'm talking about, even if you just give it an hour or two of your time.
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: introvert

That isn't my concern necessarily.

Back when Bush was in office liberals were the enemy, everyone was expected to be super patriotic after 9/11, and it was blasphemy and grounds to get put on the watch list if you disagreed.

It was one of the scariest times of my youth.

Then came Obama and I hear the same # coming from the left as if everyone forgot how frightening it was to have a government with so much power over us. The same lists are being used, different rights are being sought after for the cutting floor, and so few seem to see what is happening.

9/11, in my opinion, was not an inside job. It was turned, however, into the ultimate weapon against us over time. The constructs we created to fight the scary Middle East terrorist has been turned inward for political purposes, and both "sides" are using it.

Now here we are. Having a righty roast party while dancing on the graves of the dead to the tune of the terrorism used to strip away liberty.

We're #ing idiots. This entire thread is example of that.
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: Wookiep



So what? The left does the same damn thing, welcome to life. Is that all you guys are bitching about? Pffft small potatos, who cares in the grand scheme of it.


So we can therefore conclude that the Right is no better than the Left.

That would also mean that anyone that criticizes the Left is a hypocrite if they are not willing to apply the same criteria to the Right.

Right?



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: neo96


the ACLU calling for people to kill Trump supporters

You can NOT be serious......!!!

just saying.

No response necessary....it was not a question (heaven forbid!) .....
just an observation. Please don't trouble yourself to reply or respond.....

rhetorical only: Someone is calling for people to be killed????????

(No worries - not a question to you )



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: theNLBS

I'm just posting to give you guys props for having the balls to say it out loud.

It's obvious a huge chunk of this site's traffic comes from the hurrdurr Barack “Hussein” Obamerr fan club (not your fault of course, just the nature of being anti-establishment really), so it's not going to endear you to a lot of your own customer base, but denying ignorance ain't always pretty.

Respect



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian


you might care to do a bit of research into:

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)
Seven Mountains Dominionism (7MD)

Here, I'll make it easier for them:

Active Theocrats: The New Apostolic Reformation and The Seven Mountain Dominionists

Yeah - as you know....
it's a thing.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Loring Wirbel’s was.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I digress us evil christian right wingers are out to get everyone.

Keep Wirbel on the down low.

It's 'ABOVETOPSECRET' clearance only.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: SoulSurfer

but - I STILL just WANT EVERYONE TO GET ALONG.
Is that so heinous?





It is not heinous. But it is a naive dream i once shared. Perhaps in a few thousand years, but right now, we are missing the most important element. And that element is care. Without care, there will be victims, and through victims comes the wars.

It is not impossible, its good to keep the faith, but I personally gave up on it the more I saw the insanity humanity was going through. The lack of moral and common sense makes it hard to speak to anyone. But this is how the people have been programmed.

So can't really blame them because they are victims. But honestly I simply began a process of detachment and no longer wish to be part of the insanity. I just observe, speak out my findings, if they are heard, then good, but if not well, its no longer my problem because I did my part in exposing the truth. So my guilty conscious (for having hoarded most information for myself) is gone. I'd say begin making peace within yourself first because everyone has a shadow to heal which is neglected day by day.

And never ever, give up your morals and ethics, nor your rights. The day you do that, that's the day you betray yourself.

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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Wookiep



So what? The left does the same damn thing, welcome to life. Is that all you guys are bitching about? Pffft small potatos, who cares in the grand scheme of it.




So we can therefore conclude that the Right is no better than the Left.

That would also mean that anyone that criticizes the Left is a hypocrite if they are not willing to apply the same criteria to the Right.

Right?




You won't get argument from me as I can't stand hypocricy from all sides. Seems like a pile a beans at this point because as mad as you are at the right for it's hypocricy, the left is doing a fine job at exposing their own, especially while peaching 'tolerance'. It's unreal.

I personally don't think any party is better than the other. Now, does that make you happy? I suspect not, you want more than that.

There is a lot of extremism, but it's not just coming from one side. IMO everyone needs to take the blinders off.
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Kali74



The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has finally confirmed what we’ve been saying all along: Planned Parenthood is using your tax dollars to promote abortion—more specifically, 1.5 billion tax dollars over three years were used to promote abortion as “reproductive health care.”


IF you say so.

aclj.org...

I suggest you should read the links provided before using a biased source. Here is the link they used as a source for their article. GAO - 15 - 270R Funding and Health Services Nowhere in the 54 pages does it say that 1.5 billion was used to promote abortion. This article had to be written by the dumbest woman on the planet. She would have to be that idiotic to think that family planning and reproductive health care means abortion.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:24 PM
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I personally don't think any party is better than the other. Now, does that make you happy? I suspect not, you want more than that.

There is a lot of extremism, but it's not just coming from one side. IMO everyone needs to take the blinders off.


I'll accept that.

Let's reject extremism in all of its forms and stand against stupidity where we can.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

rhetorical only: Someone is calling for people to be killed????????


Just like Kevin Swanson? That's not selective discernment I'm sensing there is it?



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: IAMTAT




THIS is different to me.


It is.

They are throwing everything including the proverbial terrorist kitchen sink for the 2016 election.

Their motivations however are as transparent as it gets.


Remember when ATS used to run MSNBC ads?



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Wookiep



I personally don't think any party is better than the other. Now, does that make you happy? I suspect not, you want more than that.

There is a lot of extremism, but it's not just coming from one side. IMO everyone needs to take the blinders off.


I'll accept that.

Let's reject extremism in all of its forms and stand against stupidity where we can.



We all know which side you are on.


originally posted by: introvert
Seems to me that the entire reason we are in the position we are in is because we are fighting tooth-and-nail to keep the "old world order" while it falls to the ground and we are fighting against the "New World Order".

We need to change how we think, what we do, how we do it and why we do it.

We need the "new world order" to hurry the hell up.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:31 PM
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a reply to: Bone75


Just like Kevin Swanson? That's not selective discernment I'm sensing there is it?
That's the guy who said gays are abominations and need to be killed......
and that if his kid was gay and getting married, he would sit in rags and smear cow-poo all over himself.

He's a maniac.

Kevin Swanson

Please, don't insult me by pretending he's not who he is, or by saying that I don't know who he is.

Please.
Just, don't.


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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: SoulSurfer

I must have missed that post...

Thanks for pointing it out.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: SoulSurfer

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Wookiep



I personally don't think any party is better than the other. Now, does that make you happy? I suspect not, you want more than that.

There is a lot of extremism, but it's not just coming from one side. IMO everyone needs to take the blinders off.


I'll accept that.

Let's reject extremism in all of its forms and stand against stupidity where we can.



We all know which side you are on.


originally posted by: introvert
Seems to me that the entire reason we are in the position we are in is because we are fighting tooth-and-nail to keep the "old world order" while it falls to the ground and we are fighting against the "New World Order".

We need to change how we think, what we do, how we do it and why we do it.

We need the "new world order" to hurry the hell up.


I do support a "NWO".

While you cower in fear at my statement, please take the time to put it in proper context and remove the emotional knee-jerk from it.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:41 PM
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Just realize that you are on a site which discusses conspiracies, and many, including myself are very against a NWO agenda. That doesn't make us nut-balls ok? There are many valid reaons why people will never want this to happen.

It does kinda feel like the status quo is being pushed for this reason. Call me crazy, whatver. We'll all find out someday. Depending on who writes the history of our future, we're going to find out just who the nutty ones turned out to be.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 11:42 PM
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Just wanted to be crystal clear this was YOUR statement. Im fine with what you support, what i don't appreciate is dishonesty. (Not saying you were dishonest, and I actually appreciate your honesty for once.)

This allows for people to be aware and decide for themselves. The truth is all I really care about. The rest is obsolete to me.



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