originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
It's pretty clear that Mohammed actually lived. Not so much for Jesus....but I think Jesus' message was far superior.
Slow down there cowboy. How do you explain that one? Lol. There's historical records of Jesus death in the Catholic Church. So they're all liars but
the Muslims are actually following a real man?
So, did Muhammad really ascend to Heaven on a Unicorn and all that Jazz?
Here's what I'd think as a minimalist. There was an ounce of truth in both stories, The New Testmant and the Quran, but a lot of it may have been
fabricated fairy tales made by believers of the supernatural at the time. What about the Apostles, don't they have supposed relics from them such as
their supposed bones etc? Did the first Caliphs bones get kept? Is there a place where they are displayed?
Where are the relics of Muhammad? Any shred of physical proof? Not even provable proof, but subjective evidence even in the slightest? And why did the
Romans kill the early Christians in droves, and why did they believe in their cause THAT much? There's subjective evidence the early Christian saints
existed, even bones and such. Then you have the historical account of Josephus, which many try to say isn't true, yet almost everything else he wrote
has been proven to some level to be historically accurate. You guys are pretty twisted.
Could it have been Jesus was just a guy that was teaching stuff the Jews didn't like? I thought even many of them say he existed but was just a normal
So let's cut the supernatural crap out of it and say Jesus was a normal human being with no special powers, and Muhammad was a normal human being with
no special powers who claimed Jesus lived. How can you say one didn't exist and the other did? I'd love to see you explain this one because it doesn't
sound right to me.
I could say neither one of them actually went to Heaven and Heaven doesn't exist, but that they both walked the Earth and died here. That's not my
personal opinion, but I'm playing Devil's Advocate here.
Do I think Satan is real? Unfortunately, yes, but the concept of traditional Hell and Heaven as they are know may not exist. Maybe Heaven is dying as
a good man with a clear conscience so your *three letter word* experience upon death is a good trip. Maybe if you died with a bad conscience for
things you did, your *three letter word* experience upon death is a bad trip. It could theoretically be that simple. What of all the near death
experiences? Obviously people "trip" near death, and there IS proof *three letter word* is released in the brain at the time of death. Fair enough?
Oh wait, one thing I DO KNOW didn't exist were the Greek Gods and the Pagan Gods. Now that stuff is a bunch of true fairy tale mumbo jumbo from way
before we could record history in a reasonable way. These two men were around at a time when history was recorded in a more lelgitimate way.
Did the Jews and Arabs pre-Jesus actually sacrifice to idols? Where'd they get those crazy ideas from? Sounds like theres a heck of a lot crazier
notions than Jesus never existing. I firmly believe he did, as did Muhammad.
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