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Democrats Want the Status Quo and Republicans Want Something Different

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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 12:33 AM
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Well the recent polls are showing some interesting, but sad trends in the 2016 Presedential race. Apparently Democrats are happy with the establishment candidate in Hilary who has a commanding lead over all her challengers. Republicans appear to want change with Trump and Carson running 1-2 and outsider Cruz running third.

It is shaping up as an establishment, crime Lord vs billionaire entertainer. At least Republicans had some semblance of choices and are burying Bush, Christie and the establishment at the bottom of the polls. Dems never really had a chance with Clinton as the anointed one from the start. Her only competition was a crusty old man that was so left-wing even Democrats didn't want him.

So I am back to the same question I face every four years. Do I throw away my vote like I did with Ross Perot or vote for someone who is the lesser of two evils? At least last election both parties had bought and paid for candidates that you knew were useless. This time I have to pick between a known evil and a man who literally could be the next Hitler.

All I know for sure is I am screwed and so are you.


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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Everyone wants something different.

But people are so brainwashed that now every bad 8 years was only bad because of the last bad 8 years.

Next 8 years should be better, though.
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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[...] or vote for someone who is the lesser of two evils?


21st Century Politics


This is all our futures.

Party Slogan 2020
Vote for us, we're not quite as bad as those guys.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 12:47 AM
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Trump is no Hitler. Don't fall for the hyperbolic bs. If it comes down to Trump or Hillary, that's a no-brainer.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 12:49 AM
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I can't speak for every democrat, but I can speak for myself. I am contented with the democrat candidates. I am sorry you are torn. But the republicans deserve to be in tatters, karma sucks, doing mean things like this today:

www.cbsnews.com...

After facing intense public pressure from comedian Jon Stewart, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, promised earlier this week to fully fund health care benefits for 9/11 first responders. The legislation, however, is still held up over lawmakers' disagreement over whether the bill needs to be paid for.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 12:50 AM
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I must say that if you think those three will break with the establishment, you got not idea about the real establishmet. Trump REEKS of establishment. They got him up there playing the fool, the court jester, the clown. The real establishment is coming down on our heads and none of them three gonna make a whit of difference. And toss your darlin Hillary in with the bunch of them. All any of em gonna do is make some of us feel better for a little while.
Otherwise , I agree.
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 01:06 AM
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a reply to: queenofswords

I don't consider myself as someone who is easily fooled as my default position is trust, but verify, however some of Trump's rhetoric is disturbingly familiar. My only option if I go for a mainstream candidate would be to go for Trump as we KNOW Hilary is evil where Trunp might be okay.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 02:56 AM
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A vote for Trump guarantees World War III by the end of his first term. Is that what you want or do you just not understand his foreign policy positions? A vote for Hilary is a vote for death by a thousand cuts. I'll take that over armageddon though.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 03:15 AM
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Yeah Hilary. Trump is a joke and isn't even really running. He just wants press for a new reality BS show.
He will be around for another month or two. Max.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 03:23 AM
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Throwing away your vote is voting for the people that got america to this point... Republicans, and Democrats.

Helping an outside party achieve third party status is not throwing away your vote, its giving people a choice going forward.

You have to stop thinking in the now and start planning for the future.

Stop thinking any one politician is going to change things it will take time, and if the two party strangle hold isnt broken it will never occur.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, find something you believe in and fight for it.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 03:31 AM
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It's an election that should be the republicans for the taking, after a democrat in office for 8 years. Under socialist gun grabber Obamas reign, gun sales have increased and the rich have got richer. So not been that bad has he?



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 03:42 AM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

I agree.

I can't vote for Hilary or Trump and feel good about myself. The binary thinking needs to end. I will probably vote Libertarian again because I don't want to support people that want to control us which is Democrats and Republicans.

When I voted for Perot he got 21% in Ohio and 20% nationally. Of course it ended up giving the election to Bill Clinton who didn't even receive 50% nationally.
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 04:08 AM
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The only problem with the progressive party was they had nobody to replace Perot.

Personally I am going with the Veterans Party of America... third party votes during a presidential election are the most important times... enough votes (like Perots time) gets that party money and debate time going forward.

its a shame most americans that vote will continue to feed the two party strangle hold then be surprised when the politicians react the way the party wants them to.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 05:29 AM
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also progressive is a bad word now
a huge portion of the country that i will not identify would not vote for someone simply because of their association with the word progressive

in fact there is a whole laundry list of language these people find to be so distasteful the mere mention of one of these words will be accompanied by a tsunami of angry but largely empty rhetoric and a fierce defense of their chosen words against the perceived attack

crazy right?
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posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 06:16 AM
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I'm voting for the crusty old man.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 06:25 AM
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Independents want something different as well IMO.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 06:33 AM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

feel the bern!
that crust is how you know its cooked all the way through instead of just half baked



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
Well the recent polls are showing some interesting, but sad trends in the 2016 Presedential race. Apparently Democrats are happy with the establishment candidate in Hilary who has a commanding lead over all her challengers. Republicans appear to want change with Trump and Carson running 1-2 and outsider Cruz running third.

It is shaping up as an establishment, crime Lord vs billionaire entertainer. At least Republicans had some semblance of choices and are burying Bush, Christie and the establishment at the bottom of the polls. Dems never really had a chance with Clinton as the anointed one from the start. Her only competition was a crusty old man that was so left-wing even Democrats didn't want him.

So I am back to the same question I face every four years. Do I throw away my vote like I did with Ross Perot or vote for someone who is the lesser of two evils? At least last election both parties had bought and paid for candidates that you knew were useless. This time I have to pick between a known evil and a man who literally could be the next Hitler.

All I know for sure is I am screwed and so are you.



Really? Perhaps the tea Party wants something different. I don't see it in the republican establishment. It's irritating seeing the whole republican party take credit for wanting 'change' when the rest of the time they dump on the conservatives as much as the democrats..



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 08:04 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
It's an election that should be the republicans for the taking, after a democrat in office for 8 years. Under socialist gun grabber Obamas reign, gun sales have increased and the rich have got richer. So not been that bad has he?


It kind of depends on where you are in the $ chain. From where I sit, yea, he really has been that bad. But then it's a front row seat over here, Ya'll are in the back balcony whispering among yourselves. I think you may be missing some of the key parts.



posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

I think he meant the republican voting base, not the party itself, i.e polls showing Trump(something different) and Clinton (status quo) leading. I had to re-read it a couple times myself to finally get there.







 
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