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We Are SO Screwed!

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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 11:19 AM

originally posted by: rajas
a reply to: Indigent

wait what, you have a 3k debt, and 56 left... i cant make the math?

They mean that when the fiat currency crashes, they reset the system. All debt disappears when they issue new currency. Except think about this, the new 'currency' won't have a physical component. It will be totally electronic.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 11:22 AM
a reply to: intrptr

yeah i kinda figured that also, only currency you have, is gold or diamonds. But there will always be a "hard currency" for the black market..

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 11:28 AM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Youre correct about dependency on money will be of little use when there are no products to buys, no pumps to pumps your gas, no food to buy.

Go to the store-lights out, go to a gas station-no lights or electricity to the pumps-no gas anyway, groceries with your cash too? Sold out, no transaction-even cash-no restock of supplies-semis all down for deliveries, and those companies they are picking up from... are out and down and cant supply the trucks.. that cant move to stores... that cant sell-to people all lined up in front of you for products they cant buy, arent there anyway...and wont be coming.

I suggest the paper money will be useful in one case at least. Wiping our because in 48 hrs after a complete shutdown...we will all be crapping our shorts.....

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 11:39 AM

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

In the US we are almost at $19 TRILLION in debt - that doesn't include any personal debt you may have incurred.

Federal expenditure in 2015 alone was $218 BILLION, JUST on the interest.

Paying attention to the actual number of dollars in debt as opposed to the Debt:GDP ratio is about as ludicrous as it gets, and unfortunately, is what most people pay attention to. Would I be completely financially ruined with $1M in credit card debt? Yes. Would Bill Gates? No. We are in better shape in terms of debt than we were in the aftermath of WW2.

If you could still buy a brand new Cadillac for $3,500, gas for $0.23/gallon, and the average income was still $4,700/year, there would be cause for concern. The bigger your economy, the bigger your revenues, the less impactful each dollar of debt is.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 11:44 AM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

But if all electronic things failed, what good would money be, even silver or gold?
In less than a week's time store shelves would be empty and money would be just as worthless as your TV.
The only thing I agree fully with you about is your thread title.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 12:23 PM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I've read many articles about bankers trying to make hard money illegal. So many people just deal in plastic money today and it's terrifying.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 12:31 PM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

It's all a grand design.

Seems as if they're going by some play book.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 12:31 PM
Where some see "the end", and changes in lifestyle most of us aren't nearly prepared for (nor necessarily desire), I see the opportunity for radical new beginnings.

We're only screwed if we fail to seize the opportunities that will inevitably present themselves.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 12:37 PM

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
Everything you own is contained in an electronic device. Any money you have is in a bank debit system. All information about your personal life is exposed.

What will happen when there is a complete shut down of the infrastructure?

Just take one instance of a banking institution and a scenario that could happen any day at any time.

Forget losing power, if a bank decides to shut it's doors and disables all forms of debit and credit systems how will you get any money?

We have become so dependent on cashless transactions; auto pay, auto debit, email transactions.

We are making a huge mistake putting all of our trust in the banking industry. We have been given many warnings and yet we continue to go down the same path; our faith in the monetary system is going to be the catalyst for a complete breakdown of society worldwide.

We think those poor people that have nothing are so sad, guess what? They are better prepared to deal with life that is not bound to the current monetary system. I envy them. They know how to survive with bare necessities, do you, will you know what to do?

Most of you can not even tie your shoes without SARI helping you. We have seen what life is like during disruptions due to weather, imagine a calamity that is worldwide and the result of a conspiracy to control an entire population.

We have been manipulated and put in exactly the position they want us to be in, that they have concocted and cajoled, to be completely reliant on all forms of electronic devices.

You think there are not weapons in their arsenal worldwide that can render us all helpless? Think again.

This is not a doomsday doom porn scenario concocted by me, it is a verifiable fact and one that all of you know to be true.

Do not ask me to provide links or headlines or troll me with nonsense, just take a moment to look around your every day life routines and see for yourself what I am saying.

Not that it will matter, but if I were all of you I would make damn sure I have actual cash on hand. Why won't it matter? Do some thinking about that, too!

You have tasted the "red pill".

Anything that disrupts transportation or electricity over a large area for an extended amount of time and we have chaos and starvation.

Banking is much less severe but the crucial solution to most of these issues are hard assets. Necessities.

Food, Water purification, shelter, self defense.

Take care of those and you are in a much better position.

Use this system while there is time to get your necessities in order BEFORE something happens.
edit on 10-12-2015 by infolurker because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 12:50 PM

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

In the US we are almost at $19 TRILLION in debt - that doesn't include any personal debt you may have incurred.

Federal expenditure in 2015 alone was $218 BILLION, JUST on the interest.

All part of the process they started 100 years ago with the Federal Reserve.
It's now expanded world-wide with the World Bank and BIS.
The last countries to hold out against dealing with these banks are Syria and North Korea.
Libya used to be in that group and we saw what happened to them.
Now they're tearing Syria apart over it and a proposed gas line.

They can pull the plug at any time and make our life earnings vanish.
The Great depression and the bubble of 2008 were test runs for the big one.
Testing the people to see how much of this monetary monkey business we will put up with.
The OP is correct in becoming dependent on digital devices for transactions.
It is our Achilles heel with which they can make us dance to their tune.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 12:51 PM
Not all of us... Not that anyone will see that we still have power,don't think as the unprepared that you will find kindness at my door. There comes a time when you have to get really selfish. The elite have that down pat. But, it is the meek who will inherit the Earth. That will be the hard part for many. Though we have nothing many will at anytime give our coat to a stranger. It will be hard to turn away someone in need. How I dread the thought of living in a world where no one can be trusted. No one!

I just wish we could put these petty beliefs behind us and get to work on the most important thing for us to do. Get off this rock!

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 12:59 PM

originally posted by: Metallicus
Gold, guns and a large library of actual books and CDs.

I am good.

My Man!

I like how you think. When it all goes to s***, I hope to be chilling with my Ruger and a brandy, reading Dostoyevski. I can't WAIT for some dumbass to try to come knocking down my door lol

edit on 10-12-2015 by FamCore because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 01:32 PM
We will be forced to eat roots and grubs, or worse yet, Brave Sir Robin's minstrels.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 01:43 PM
I have enough fishing and hunting equipment to last 5 lifetimes. I also have just about any type of tool I could ever need. I don't have a cell phone and I do all my transactions in cash. If I need to buy something off the web I use gift cards. I have no debt either if I can't pay cash for it I don't need it. I like to keep my life as simple as possible.

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 01:54 PM

originally posted by: butcherguy
We will be forced to eat roots and grubs, or worse yet, Brave Sir Robin's minstrels.

When the money goes south... WHAT money? BWAHAhahaaaa.
Two Georgies left in checking until the middle of the month;
with Gruel-to-the-Death in my freezer complementing the
parcel of stale oyster crakens. Come at me Putin... pulse DIS.

It's around here somewhere.. bark's pretty good if you prepare it
properly. And for the entree', the Sherrif's henchmen look pretty
gnarly.... lots of parboil time and wasted firewood. On the other
hand, I never met a lute player I wanted to invote to dinner. irk

Only after you have lost everything can you do a convincing
Solzhenitsyn impersonation... besides
"Specialization is for insects." Bob Heinlein. So shall we diversify:
or perish.
edit on 10-12-2015 by derfreebie because: And oh how we heartburned in the camps.. from Dave's chili

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 05:19 PM
You can't pay a mortgage in cash- look it up, plenty of sources (even video) of people trying.

The system is rigged against us, and it has a mathematical certainty of failure sometime around 2013.
Yes, 2013.

But don't worry- when it comes crashing down, even if you do have paper money it'll only be good for the first week or so- for use as barter to buy supplies off of people who still trust it. They'll die eating what's left of the cash...

posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 05:53 PM
a reply to: Asktheanimals

I agree, OP nailed this one.

posted on Dec, 11 2015 @ 10:00 PM
I have an oil well and a refinery, if you have a farm bring me food and I'll give you fuel. Once I have established inflow of food, ammo and tools and once my stockpiles are full, yet the inflow of stuff continues beyond what we can consume I'll take your gold and give you just enough fuel to survive on, my well just keeps pumping day after day. Hey someone has to have oil wells and turrets after the screens go dark and it may as well be me, if you want to take it from me then I'll be waiting for you with 15+ years of preparation and training to blow your head off.

posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 08:35 PM
remember the Salad Shooter?

posted on Dec, 13 2015 @ 08:56 PM
We have two paths, based on past trends and the conditions of the world today
mass poverty, famine, violence, cannibalism and disease
or a broad, lengthy war.
edit on 13-12-2015 by all2human because: (no reason given)

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