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US Neo-Nazi Leader Says Donald Trump ‘the Real Deal’

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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn


1) You "heard" Illegal Immigration is at a net zero? Weird, not even DHS or the Hispanic Pew Research Center thinks so.

2) Bombing other countries? ISIS is not a country. It's a Caliphate...not recognized by any world government outside of itself.
And speaking of BOMBING, Obama's drone strikes have done more to harm Syrians than Trump's words. Seriously, grow up on the subject.

3) Trump isn't a danger because of his policies. He's not a "racist" or "bigot"...his NARCISSISM is what makes him dangerous. His arrogance, his bravado. "Racism"?? Whatever.

And Hitler was a mouthpiece for the Nazi Party which was a WORKERS UNION. Trump's similarity? He's a mouth...on constant "ON" mode.

"Racist"? Hardly. Trumps PERSONALITY flaws will get us all killed. His policies would probably save our collective ARSES. But he can't seem to be about policy, because he's too busy Tweeting WW3 and being a reactionary to everything...and running his mouth to hear himself speak 99.9999999% of the time.

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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

The problem is that "Great America" eventually became "Current America". If you go backwards, the only place to come is forwards again. Even if it was possible, you'd just be shunting the issue to the coming generations. Like Climate Change.

Last I heard, the net immigration from Mexico (a big crux of Trump's campaign. Wall and all, you know) was zero.
And Trump's approaching Terrorism the wrong way. Bombing other countries unsurprisingly leads to more terrorists.

@Geister


They certainly would be compared to Hitler, if they were leading in the polls (which they are not).


Not by me. I'd be comparing Trump to Hitler regardless of where he was in the polls. Because he is similar to Hitler. Cruz is despicable, Bush is a Bush, and Carson is totally insane, but none of them are like Hitler. Trump is.


But let's take an honest approach to this comparison. Do you see Donald Trump as a Nationalist Socialist Democrat? Do you see him banning guns? Do you see him rounding up all the illegals and sending them to forced work camps and gas chambers? Do you see him invading Canada for "lebensraum"? Do you see him implementing a murder program for the disabled?


I can't see it happening easily, but I don't think the Germans who elected Hitler really saw it coming either. It's not just Trump himself that I'm worried about. Actually, he's probably the lesser thing. Unless America really goes off the deep end he won't be rounding up illegals into gas chambers, but he's on the path to it.
The issue is the message that electing someone who, for instance, openly mocks the disabled sends. I dislike using the Slippery Slope argument, but in Trump's case... It's not the man himself. It's what he represents.

Don't make the mistake of thinking I'm comparing Trump to end-of-WWII Genocide Hitler. I'm comparing him to the earlier one, that would later become that man.


I don't think the analogy fits at all. And here is why ... the Jews of Europe were not involved in global terrorist attacks in any shape or form. They were not blowing up cafes, bus stations, schools, etc. in Germany. They were not bombing marathons, shooting up Christmas Holiday parties and making threats to totally destroy Germany.

Hitler demonized the Jews based on a very primitive form of Social Darwinism - feeling that the Aryan race was superior, and the Jews were all a scourge on civilization. He lied about them, demonized them, instructed a theologian consortium to re-write the Bible and remove any references of Jews in it, and turn Christ into an Aryan that the Jews killed. He used propaganda that was based all on lies. He imprisoned his political enemies, and those who refused to preach his version of warped Christianity (Dietrich Bonhoeffer).

I do not think your comparison is very fair. Of course, we all know that there are peaceful Muslims, but every single day, there is a terrorist attack carried out in the world where someone does this in the name of Islam. They target innocent people. These are not "propaganda" or "lies".


The Nazis are the radicalized jihadist Muslims, not Trump.

The Nazis and the Islamic terrorists have several things in common - one of which is that they both hate the Jews. Donald Trump is not an anti-semite, he is pro American. The Terrorists are winning the war, he wants them to lose.



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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:02 AM
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a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

1) Hmm, perhaps I mistook illegal immigration for total population of illegal immigrants. Regardless, that has been declining. www.pewresearch.org...
2) I wasn't talking about ISIS itself. I was talking about the countries that contain ISIS. I guess since they're ME countries, they don't matter that much. Turn them into a glass bowl to solve the problems created by the US in the first place, eh?
Right, so it's Obama's fault. Of course. Note that I don't like the drone strikes either. They do far more harm than good.
3) Erm, yes, he is a danger because of his policies. Not necessarily for the policies themselves, however. The mindset they propogate and encourage. What they represent.

It seems we both think Trump is bad but don't agree on why he is bad. Oh well.
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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:05 AM
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You obviously value this racist's opinion.

I certainly don't.

Congratulations on giving him more exposure than he deserves.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:06 AM
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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:06 AM
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Point of correction for myself.

There's a caveat to what I said earlier. And that is the only "Nazi" or "Authoritarian" part I have seen from Trump is:

1) Mocking of the disabled. Which is reminiscent of MANY Authoritarian Fascists and Communists.

2) Advocating violence on protesters, who are American citizens.

Those two were the warning shot for me, mainly because it spoke to his nature, his personality.

But like I said "Racist" and "Bigot" he is not.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:08 AM
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a reply to: GeisterFahrer

Yes, it's not the strongest analogy in existence. Not many are, that's why I'm saying that Trump is "like" early Hitler, and not saying that Trump "is" early Hitler.

Speaking of lies though, I seem to remember Trump blatantly lying about something in recent memory.
Ah, right.
www.politifact.com...



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:11 AM
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Do you have any links to footage of these many fascists and commies mocking people with disabilities?

I would love to see them.

BTW - persons with disabilities abhor being labeled simply as "disabled" with no recognition of their personhood.
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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:12 AM
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a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

The man himself may not be racist or bigoted, but surely you agree that what he says is somewhat designed to appeal to such people.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:14 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

1) Hmm, perhaps I mistook illegal immigration for total population of illegal immigrants. Regardless, that has been declining. www.pewresearch.org...
2) I wasn't talking about ISIS itself. I was talking about the countries that contain ISIS. I guess since they're ME countries, they don't matter that much. Turn them into a glass bowl to solve the problems created by the US in the first place, eh?
Right, so it's Obama's fault. Of course. Note that I don't like the drone strikes either. They do far more harm than good.
3) Erm, yes, he is a danger because of his policies. Not necessarily for the policies themselves, however. The mindset they propogate and encourage. What they represent.

It seems we both think Trump is bad but don't agree on why he is bad. Oh well.


1) Syria is a failed State and will NEVER recover in our lifetime. It's Swiss cheese. If all the people are leaving, and it's only ISIS there, I say glass it. The Caliphate CANNOT BE allowed to spread. And any civilians there CANNOT be seen as shields. It really is that huge.

You spoke of HITLER. The Caliphate and ISIS are more akin to HITLER than Trump. They cannot be allowed to take hold of the Levant at ANY level.

3) Trump is encouraging Nationalism. That's the ONE part of his policies I admire. Americas former misdeeds are more responsible for ISIS than "Trump". 99.999% of the people in ISIS held territories, literally have almost no clue what Trump says, or even who he is. As they aren't allowed to even engage in Western Media, and don't SPEAK ENGLISH,



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 03:34 AM
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What a load of crap. ISIS have more in common with the Nazis, but PC society is twisting this to make Trump look the bad guy...



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 04:27 AM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Who said everyone who likes Trump is a bigot?



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 04:30 AM
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What are you talking about? Either you're totally misinformed or just spreading BS. Either way, you're bad for this thread.
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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 04:35 AM
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a reply to: bjarneorn

I wondered how long it would take before some Trump fan comes in here accusing people of being politically correct. How very predictable.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
I somehow get the feeling that if Hitler himself arose from the grave and gave Trump a thunderous applause with 5/5 stars, the people who support him would still support him.

You see, while the endorsement of a neo-Nazi white supremacist should not necessarily be considered the be-all end-all method of judging someone's character, it really should cause people to stop and you know... Think. A little. For once. Ever.



I'm sure Trump supporters will have the same level of "security" at the poll's as Obama supporters did.


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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: Swills



now is a good time to remind everyone that as Senator Obama, the current President of the United States marched with the New Black Panther Party in the streets of Selma, Alabama



It's impossible to sling mud, without getting dirty yourself.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:24 AM
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Hey, I've got another link for you.

Top Neo-Nazi Website Applauds "Glorious Leader" Trump's Call to Ban All Muslims

This link covers an article by the publisher of one of the top neo-Nazi websites. He endorsed Trump as well. I won't link the neo-Nazi site it's reviewing, but you can find a link to it in the 1st paragraph ("Glorious Leader blah blah blah"). The article on the neo-Nazi site is exactly what you'd expect it to be and the comments are particularly telling. They'll also look quite familiar.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:24 AM
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Why do you guys always always always always always always always ALWAYS make it about Obama. He's ineffectual, whatever, drone strikes are bad I agree, but right now I don't care about him. This thread is about Trump.

I swear, no matter what I'm talking about, there's always the inevitable "but Obama."



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:30 AM
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originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Trump is one of the bigots, he is promoting an agenda that is based on discriminating against others due to their race or religion. That is why the white supremacists like him. The question is, why are we moving backwards?



As opposed to forward with Obama? *sarcasm*

Pcg



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
Point of correction for myself.

There's a caveat to what I said earlier. And that is the only "Nazi" or "Authoritarian" part I have seen from Trump is:

1) Mocking of the disabled. Which is reminiscent of MANY Authoritarian Fascists and Communists.

2) Advocating violence on protesters, who are American citizens.

Those two were the warning shot for me, mainly because it spoke to his nature, his personality.

But like I said "Racist" and "Bigot" he is not.


To say he is not a bigot is strange, but it's a subjective term. The comments he has made about women 'bleeding' I would view as bigoted, as well as his pathetic, totally pathetic little impersonation of a disabled journalist - bigoted. The grouping together of Mexicans emigrating to the US as rapists and criminals - bigoted, if not 100% clearly racist....



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