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Have astronomers found a new solar system planet?!
Well... probably not. A pair of research papers were just made public claiming to have found what may be two largish objects way past Neptune. But there are many problems with the papers (not the least of which is that they haven't been peer reviewed), so don't get too excited just yet. To be clear, the objects *may* be real, and *may* be solar system objects, but that is by no means clear. I explain in this article, which hopefully will restrain the inevitable media nonsense.
originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: UnknownEntity
The Niburu crowd must be hopping madder than Rumplestiltskin with a bad case of St Vitus dance and Tourrettes.
They are screaming, "See I TOLD YOU!"
This is a crazy discovery.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Despite what your own thoughts are regarding this issue, there is scientific evidence which points to the possibility of a brown dwarf, and at least another planet existing in our Solar System.
This thread is not about 2012, as I have said many times I do not think Nibiru, or any planet or brown dwarf will pass by in 2012, this is about the real evidence that point to the real possibility that a brown dwarf, and at least one other planet exist in our Solar System.
Since 2004 I have been posting information on this website on the possibility of a brown dwarf and another unknown planet existing within our Solar System, probably somewhere within the Oort Cloud.
originally posted by: wildespace
Extreme trans-Neptunian objects and the Kozai mechanism:
signalling the presence of trans-Plutonian planets
C. de la Fuente Marcos⋆ and R. de la Fuente Marcos
Universidad Complutense de Madrid, Ciudad Universitaria, E-28040 Madrid, Spain
Accepted 2014 June 3. Received 2014 June 3; in original form 2014 April 23
The existence of an outer planet beyond Pluto has been a matter of debate for decades and the
recent discovery of 2012 VP113 has just revived the interest for this controversial topic. This Sedna-like object has the most distant perihelion of any known minor planet and the value of its argument of perihelion is close to 0◦. This property appears to be shared by almost all known asteroids with semimajor axis greater than 150 au and perihelion greater than 30 au (the extreme trans-Neptunian objects or ETNOs), and this fact has been interpreted as evidence for the existence of a super-Earth at 250 au. In this scenario, a population of stable asteroids may be shepherded by a distant, undiscovered planet larger than the Earth that keeps the value of their argument of perihelion librating around 0◦as a result of the Kozai mechanism. Here, we study the visibility of these ETNOs and confirm that the observed excess of objects reaching perihelion near the ascending node cannot be explained in terms of any observational biases.
This excess must be a true feature of this population and its possible origin is explored in the framework of the Kozai effect. The analysis of several possible scenarios strongly suggest that at least two trans-Plutonian planets must exist.
Key words: celestialmechanics – minor planets, asteroids: general – minor planets, asteroids:
individual: 2012 VP113 – planets and satellites: individual: Neptune.
originally posted by: MrConspiracy
Isn't it supposed to be a planet x "system" rather than just Nibiru itself.
Not that i'm sbscribing to the planet x craziness, but thought I'd throw it out there.
Regardless, this is interesting.
originally posted by: UnknownEntity
It is interesting to note how quickly the scientific community is discrediting these two papers on twitter.
Although both papers have been published by reputed scientists under international collaboration.
Something is surly wrong here, is it possible these two papers have just touched a raw nerve?