a reply to: Neill887
Right! My bad, I'll apologise for my misunderstanding. Thanks for clearing that up for me - sometimes my reading comprehension leaves a bit to be
desired I'm afraid.
I'm more than happy to admit when I'm wrong; in fact, being proven wrong makes me happy, because it means I've learned something, so prepare yourself
for a barrage of questions!
I have heard mention of the theory that the Mars rovers are actually located on Earth, but I won't lie - I don't know a huge amount about it. So, let
me get this straight - there is the idea that certain rocks have been moved? Could this be a trick of the light, as in, shadows fall at different
times depending on the light source. If NASA did move the stone, why would they do that? If not through human intervention, how could the stones have
Is it possible that the "movement" of the rodent stone is caused by different angles? The Mars Rovers aren't stationary objects; they trundle around
the Martian surface as long as they can before getting stuck in a ditch. Take the case of the famous Face on Mars - when photographed at a different
angle, it scarcely looked at all like a face.
Why is the rodent stone considered important? It just seems like what I mentioned before, about seeping shapes in clouds. I could google this, yes,
but I'd rather pose my questions to people who actually have more knowledge of this than I do. In those two photographs, it actually looks like a
different clump of rocks. Either that, or different angle. In the second photo, not only do I not see the rodent stone, but I see a few different
looking rocks too, which makes it look as though the photos were either taken at a different location, or are the rocks are obscured by the different
Now, apologies once again for the lengthy post, but I am genuinely curious about this whole Mars debacle. Only having paid the most cursory attention
to it, there is a lot I don't know.
Firstly, why would NASA send a robot to a part of Earth? Some terrestrial landscapes look rather similar to Mars. Out in the red deserts of Australia,
rocks are scattered all over the place. If you ever get the chance, I highly recommend going on a holiday all throughout the country, where'll you see
snowy mountains, arid desert, savanna scrub, tropical rainforests, lush green hinterlands. The Mars landscape is looks very familiar to some part of
the North Queensland savanna and the red waste in the central deserts. And of course, some areas in the Middle East. I still maintain that
astrobiologists studying the tenacity of life thrives under extreme conditions are the best thing we have (so far) to understanding what kind of
extremophile organisms can not only survive but thrive under intense environment conditions. The tardigrade (water bear) is a prime example of an (so
adorably cute I want a pet tardigrade) organism able to survive in space amongst a whole host of adverse conditions.
I think, if we find life on Mars, it could only be microscopic fauna, like microbes and such. Cyanobacteria has been shown to survive in replicated
Mars conditions - this is seriously important for further study of extremophile organisms. There's a good chance that all microbes and whatnot have
long since perished, but if we could some sort of fossil record, that would be fantastic.
I never meant to imply that life could never exist on Mars. In fact, it's entirely plausible - at the very, there may well be traces of life forms
which have since perished. Of course, they would still almost certainly leave their mark on the world. The presence of water is a good sign.
Back to the whole Mars thing being a hoax - why do you think that? In order to establish a habitable base on Mars, well... you'd have to somehow
counteract the harsh UV radiation, as well find ways to cultivate food. Of course, there is the concept of bioengineering - similar basic life forms
which, over a long time, transformed the Earth's atmophere into what we now know as perfectly habitable. Now, building bases for people on Mars could
theoretically be done, but you'd have to have an insane amount of funding. The majority of this funding would have to come from private sources. And
that's a lot of funding - space missions ain't cheap.
Just remember, I'm asking questions, and would be duly grateful if someone was kind enough to elucidate some more of their arguments. Talks of
terraforming and inhabiting Mars... well, why? What's their incentive? Generally speaking, most governments are far more concerned about geopolitical
issues than about building bases on Mars, hence why NASA's pretty much run into a dead end.
What would be the advantage of establishing colonies on the moon? Assuming the whole planet has been terraformed, it would... actually, it would be
fascinating to see how human culture would develop away from Earth. Although, of course, this would take generations.
As for microbial life, well if there's any life left at all, I'm sorry to say it won't been some sexually liberated green alien. I'm more of the
opinion that if life did indeed live on Mars (which is totally plausible), it would be all but eradicated by the shockingly harsh conditions. I'd like
to send some tardigrades up there and see how they fare.
If you would be so kind as to suffer through my lengthy posts and answer some questions, I would be much obliged. As I said, I know only the most
cursory knowledge on this subject. Please, if I've missed something, I would indebted to you if you if you could take the time to give me a brief
run-through. Googling is all well and good, but nothing
beats rational discourse between people.
Sorry, one more thing - you mentioned that in the second picture is taken from a different angle. Could this angle have obscured the rodent stone?
I don't know why this rock is considered to be so important. It doesn't like nearly enough like rodent on Earth, and its composition seems to change
quite noticebly from different angles. There are a lot of strangle shaped rocks on Mars.
Oh, and why would they film this is Utah or some such American state? What's the point on that?
I would truly be very appreciative if someone would be so kind as to eludicate these for me