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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: stormcell
But since each dolphin would send out the same kind of clicks, other dolphins can understand the picture too...
That wouldn't be how it worked at all. Dolphins process a pattern of sonic returns — that is, echoes — as an image.
If a dolphin wanted to say 'boat hull', he would simply produce a similar sonic pattern.
But could a dolphin think of a picture or phrase at the same time as they were talking, and other dolphins think of the same picture?
A little confusion here, I think. Consider again how this would work, if it were in fact the case.
Yes, I've read about arguably different dialects within whale and dolphin pods.
If the impression can be transmitted to another dolphin, it would be possible to 'span the world' as in share with another dolphin from elsewhere and 'span time' in the sense of coming after the fact
There's a rumour going around that Father Christmas isn't real, but I don't believe it
To think of any creature on this earth as a "lesser being" really escapes my understanding.
They were taught language and used different whistling sounds to make words for colours and shapes (red, green, blue), (ball, cube, food).
So probably, they don't need to transmit images. It's more time and energy efficient just to use language.
originally posted by: revmoofoo
WOW! Amazing stuff OP. Isn't this the point where Phage usually shows up and ruins it all for us?
originally posted by: stormcell
They were taught language and used different whistling sounds to make words for colours and shapes (red, green, blue), (ball, cube, food). So probably, they don't need to transmit images. It's more time and energy efficient just to use language.
originally posted by: smurfy
There was a five year project in the 80's called Project Janus using a lot of 'Analogue' and digital synth sound gear to work on Dolphin sounds as a means of a communicative language between Dolphins and humans by virtue of a similarity of human digitized speech and Dolphin clicks in the lower ranges, but they didn't use the very high unltrasound like here. It's difficult now to get a full rundown on that Project Janus, but one man's name I have is Dr John Lilley from back then.
The aim then was to create a forty whistle-word vocabulary with the dolphins, which was accomplished it seems, but I think they then realised there was more to it than just 'language' how much further they got, I don't know.
In the 1980s Lilly directed a project which attempted to teach dolphins a computer-synthesised language. Lilly designed a future "communications laboratory" that would be a floating living room where humans and dolphins could chat as equals and where they would develop a common language. Lilly envisioned a time when all killing of whales and dolphins would cease, "not from a law being passed, but from each human understanding innately that these are ancient, sentient earth residents, with tremendous intelligence and enormous life force. Not someone to kill, but someone to learn from."
After Graduating from Penn State University, Lilly was forced to stay on as a member of the faculty working under Dr. Detlev Bronk for 19 years of indebted servitude, conducting priority military research for the U.S. Air Force. During World War II, Lilly researched the physiology of high-altitude flying and invented instruments for measuring gas pressure. After the war, he trained in psychoanalysis at the University of Pennsylvania, where he began researching the physical structures of the brain and consciousness. In 1951 he published a paper showing how he could display patterns of brain electrical activity on a cathode ray display screen using electrodes he devised specially for insertion into a living brain. Furthermore, Lilly's work on electrical stimulation of nervous system gave rise to biphasic charge balanced electrical stimulation pulses (later known as "Lilly's wave" or "Lilly's pulses" ), which is currently an established approach to design of safe electrical stimulation in neuroprosthetics.