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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:28 PM
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You guys think Trump wont win bc of what hes saying now? Hes going to go so hard on the way out now bc he knows he has a shot. He is going to show he can accomplish things waaayyy larger than these other candidates. If any of them could have made 10 billion they would have already. And Trump did it through infrastructure and media. These are very big issues for America right now. Infrastructure - Manufacturing, Media - Spread of Terrorism. But hey, may the best guy/gal win! The country is DEFINITELY going to turn out for this election. God bless America and # sharia law




posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Trump is strategically playing the long game.
Admit it. There is a very high probability that there will be more ISIS attacks here and in Europe very soon.

Watch what happens after the next one.


exactly! and trump knows it.There is still 11 months until the election,all it will take is 1 terrorist attack in America that kills hundreds of people and then people from every political background will be voting for the only candidate who says he will deal harshly with terrorist,muslims and mosque`s. Donald Trump.
The other thing that trump has going for him is that after 7 years of weak to no leadership people who normally wouldn`t vote for someone who demonstrates excessively strong leadership will have no problem voting for trump.
After 7 years of weak to no leadership I think a lot of people would rather have the excessively strong leadership of trump rather than vote for someone else and take a chance that we end up with another weak leadership career politician in the white house.
With ISIS flexing it`s muscles all over the world now I think a lot of people are afraid that we might end up with another weak career politician in the white house,so they rather have what looks like a sure bet in strong leadership even if it means that leadership might be excessively strong.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: Ektar
a reply to: Enochstask

I would ask him about those of us who are disabled
since he made fun of us...
I would like to hear him answer the many questions
that ATS has to ask because we have many intelligent
members here that I think would ask better questions
than just average Joe.

Cheers
Ektar


Here's my question for Trump. He wants to attack the families of ISIS because those who are willing to die are usually less willing to sacrifice people close to them instead. Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik fit this description as well. Does he support the targeting of Syed's father and their child? If he doesn't, why do they get a pass when people in the Middle East don't?



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I look out over the political landscape and see nothing but clowns and fools.




...And greedy and selfish narcissists and liars and psychopaths.
Why do we support them? Why do we accept the only option they give us, which is never to the people's benefit?
Why can't we just group together, en masse, and just say NO?

Come election day, why can't a majority of people just abstain from voting? The ones who do vote will be in the minority and will not amount to enough votes to decide an election. then who gets to be President?



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: Starling




Come election day, why can't a majority of people just abstain from voting? The ones who do vote will be in the minority and will not amount to enough votes to decide an election. then who gets to be President?


Do you really think that is how it works?

Non-voters do not influence elections no matter how many there are.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: Starling

I also just had a quick glance at the polls and it looks to me like the 3 frontrunner's are Hillary, Trump, and Sanders. At this point Sanders is actually looking like a decent choice even though I dislike some of his socialist policies. The days of hoping for Rand Paul or Garry Johnson are like imaginary dreams now. I'm extremely worried about what will happen if either Hillary or Trump get elected more than I'm worried about any terrorist threat. In my mind they are the terrorists, the people to keep an eye on because they're always up to shady dealings. Not only that, the U.S. government will become a total laughing stock for the rest of the world if Trump gets elected. Why can't people see that? Are they really so scared of some exaggerated terrorist threat that they think a person like Trump is the solution? I simply cannot wrap my mind around it... I thought the slogan of this forum was deny ignorance, not embrace ignorance and support scum bags because you feel there's no better option.
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: tonycodes
If Trump becomes president he has to give up his proprietary knowledge on how to successfully make massive deals and take on massive infrastructure. That is a huge sacrifice to give up your business secrets. That's how the presidency should be. It shouldn't be some prize to win, taking office should be a sacrifice of your time, expertise and knowledge, he would be doing that. I don't see the political backgrounds of the other candidates worth as much as what Trump knows.


That is exactly the mindset that our Founding Fathers had in mind. Serving your countrymen(& women) was originally intended to be a sacrifice made because of the patriotic sense of duty a citizen felt and the willingness to give of themselves the time and effort to maintain and support these United States of America.

In this age of hard-core cynicism, I won't be a bit surprised if someone "Smarter" than this farm-raised Hoosier sets to picking apart the above. It won't change the fact that spending some time doing your part in a representative government was primarily expected to be an act of conscience for any that valued living here.

When I used to be a supervisor, I would occasionally make a remark to someone that had "milked" what I had told them to do to the point of absurdity. The blank look I always got came as no surprise because anyone who understood would never have tried to play me to those extremes... When I'd finally had enough, I would go get them and say, "Apparently you didn't understand that I had a little job I needed you to take care of, I didn't intend for you to make a career out of it!!"

Originally, the citizen-based government was meant to be made up of men (and later women) who went and did their patriotic duty. When that commitment was completed, they were to return home and continue their lives.

The idea of career politicians is alien to the First Principles of American Government.

A sure sign of how far we've fallen is the current assumption that anyone running for office is starting from the foundational, "What's in it for me?"



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 09:59 PM
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Like I said.. America should pray he doesn't win. Whether he means what he says, or he is just spouting ridiculous claims at every turn.. either way, he would be utterly terrible as the POTUS. His utter lack of knowledge of foreign affairs.. the people involved and what it means.. is frightening.

I don't want a POTUS that thinks we should unconstitutionally monitor or not allow people of a certain religion in the country.. nor someone who would lie so blatantly about such a thing. He is a clown.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:00 PM
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I hope Trump wins.

I hope Trump first piece of legislation he gets past, is to end corporate lobbying on all elections in the US. This will help end corporate greed and their control over our politions.

No more favoritism for the elite.

Next piece of Legislation to pass, is not allow head of corporations write legislation with Congress like the Health care act, pharmaceuticals corporations, Insurance Companies, Monsanto's, who wrote in previsions to reap all the profits for themselves and screwing the American people out of their money.

I hope Trump will put us back on the gold standard and throw out the World Banking Cartels including the IMF, they have all demonstrated how corrupt they are. We need a banking system for We The People, what we have now is not working.

What we have now is a very corrupt government and Banking system that that no longer works for We The People.

I hope Trump removes the CIA for good. I have read nothing good about the CIA from what I have read they are just another criminal organization above all the laws of our land and work for the elite by create terrorism around the world.

NSA needs to be removed as well. With all these mass shooting in the US and all the data mining they haven't stop any terrorist attacks in this country.

We need a leader who understands corruption and knows how to deal with it.

I have always said this before the Untied States can't be turned around until a new 911 investigation is warranted by people not connected to our government with subpoena power and charge those that helped orchestrate and carry out and covered up this False Flag.

Apparently our government has become to big and to powerful and believes they are above the laws of our land.

Trump is the only man that could make these changes and turn this great country around and make us a proud Nation once again.
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: tonycodes
You guys think Trump wont win bc of what hes saying now? Hes going to go so hard on the way out now bc he knows he has a shot. He is going to show he can accomplish things waaayyy larger than these other candidates. If any of them could have made 10 billion they would have already. And Trump did it through infrastructure and media. These are very big issues for America right now. Infrastructure - Manufacturing, Media - Spread of Terrorism. But hey, may the best guy/gal win! The country is DEFINITELY going to turn out for this election. God bless America and # sharia law


Two things I include in my prayers nightly:

#1. Please watch over Mr. Trump and keep him and his loved ones safe.

#2. Please don't let it all end like this.

"How does it feel to be talking to an American president for the last time?" - B.H. Obama



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
I TOLD all of the LIBERALS if you continue to be so rude the pendulum will swing that much farther right politically.
Now IMAGINE Trump with all of these NEWFOUND executive orders powers he can play with...


That's the thing, Trump isn't ultra far to the right, the man is no conservative. At the most he's another centrist, but he's taking the worst ideas from everyone rather than the best.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958


I hope Trump first piece of legislation he gets past, is to end corporate lobbying on all elections in the US. This will help end corporate greed and their control over our politions.

Please give me some of that stuff you are smoking, it must be good to produce such bogus thoughts as this. Do you not realize Trump is a very powerful corporate man who relies on the power of lobbying to influence legislation? He wouldn't get rid of corporate lobbying in a million years.


I hope Trump will put us back on the gold standard and throw out the World Banking Cartels including the IMF, they have all demonstrated how corrupt they are. We need a banking system for We The People, what we have now is not working.

Oh yes, I'm sure Trump would put his billions of federal reserve dollars in jeopardy for the good of the average man. He will abolish all debts even though many people are probably in debt to him. I seriously cannot believe some of the ridiculous nonsense you Trump fanatics come up... get a grip.
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
Pick and choose much?

I remember quite distinctly people comparing PC and some of Obama's policies as Hitler like and the Progressive left went apes#$# crazy on the internet, saying it was an offensive thing for the right wing to do and an insult to those who died in the Concentration Camps!

Why is it cool to say it now?


Because there's a difference when making the comparison just because you disagree with someone versus making the comparison when it's actually true. Trump is espousing the exact same policies that Hitler did. This isn't someone just trying to call someone an authoritarian jackass. Trump wants camps, he wants a Berlin Wall, he wants deportations, he wants special ID's, he wants to weed out the disabled, he has protesters beaten. These are all things he has said and done.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder


Please give me some of that stuff you are smoking, it must be good to produce such bogus thoughts as this. Do you not realize Trump is a very powerful corporate man who relies on the power of lobbying to influence legislation? He wouldn't get rid of such legislation in a million years.


To bad you support corporate lobbying, that's what destroyed our government.


Oh yes, I'm sure Trump would put his billions of federal reserve dollars in jeopardy for the good of the average man. He will abolish all debts even though many people are probably in debt to him. I seriously cannot believe some of the ridiculous nonsense you Trump fanatics come up... get a grip.


Perhaps you should get a grip, the Brick Nations have converted to a gold standard and their economies are better then ours.

We will have no choice in the near future if we are to be competitive in the Global Markets. In case you didn't notice the dollar is dying and many counties will not trade or use it today.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: CornShucker

Your understanding of history is poor. Government in the US has always been made up of career politicians, with the exception of those at the local level.

There's a reason for this too, if it's your career you have an incentive to placate your electorate. If you have something lined up in the private sector, then the only incentive you have is cronyism until you're voted out.

The presidency was never about sacrifice, it has always been about power just like any high level political job.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I have heard Donald Trump hates kittens and wants to end school lunches.

He is a very bad man (or are we all just falling for the ramped up Republican narrative to knock him down and keep a mainstream candidate as the nominee).


You should focus more on his policies than his persona. His policies are not the kind that have ever united people at any point in history. He's a scapegoater. He is creating a climate of suspicion while identifying entire demographics as root problems. People have a valid reason to be concerned with the things he says.

You always take the cop out of not being for any candidate, but I haven't seen you make a real case for why he is not worth being concerned about. This is the most important job in the world. What are your defenses in the name of? It's not the constitution, it's not world or domestic peace, He offers no hope of domestic stability. He's not for any of it.

What is this # really going to do? How are citizen under active political opposition going to react? Are the people implementing these policies going to be the most properly behaved in human history? I doubt it, trump already justifies roughing dissenters up. How much do you think it's going to take for something to trigger strong reactions from either side? How many people are signing up because they're ready to "kick some ass"? How is this anyone's ideal approach to society? You haven't really thought about social stability if his ideas don't concern you.

What do you think our enemies around the world are going to think when they see a segmented America full of in fighting? It's possible to talk about the need to be cautious without divisive demagoguery. He chooses not too. His whole agenda is based on his problems with other groups of people, his suspicions on them. How does no one notice this? Which of your favorite historic leaders has ever made these arguments and stirred # up among his own citizens? when has it ever turned out fine? It's hard to believe anyone on this board would support such an unconstitutional fascist with no concern for social stability. If we destabilize domestically our enemies will notice, but at least he's not a politician.
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

The last non career politician was Ike. He warned us....



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 10:46 PM
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
If Trumps wins we may see a transparency in government, something Americans have never seen. I can assume Trump will start from scratch building his administration.

Trump will be the hardest President to work with because, we all know he wants results and fast. I can see changes that the American people want.

I don't believe Trump will be intimidated by the powers that be.

I look at Trump as America last hope in turning our country around.


You are really naive, to think that elections will change anything regarding ongoing policies.
No matter who or what side or party gets "elected", the course is already set.
Democracy is a sham and it's only purpose is to give the people of "the free" world the idea, that once every few years they have a say in governance, be it local or national.
I don't get it why people all over the world get so hyped up anymore, when elections of any kind are near.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 11:22 PM
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Criticism from the press is what fuels his base.


Absolutely!

People are so fed up with the lesser evil and the cookie cutter candidates that they are desperate enough to pick the guy that the System doesn't clearly wan't .

The problem is that they don't realize that The enemy of their enemy is not necessarily their friend . Trump is more likely a used car salesman than a friend.

We are ripe for the picking as a Nation and having come from a communist dictatorship , I can tell you that we better tread lightly with someone like Trump.

IMO I think if he continues doing well , that the GOP new slogan will be changed from "Vote for the lesser evil" to "Vote for the known evil" in 2016.

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