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Donald Trump Calls For 'Complete Shutdown' Of Muslims Entering U.S.

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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Skywatcher2011




I find it hilarious to hear all these anti-Trump people just bitching about why they won't support him yet the same people who bitch about Trump NEVER EVER SAY WHO THEY WILL SUPPORT COME ELECTION TIME!!!

All you anti-Trump people are sheeple!!!!


There are plenty of reasons to not support him, a laundry list if you will.




posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Btw...Trump is VERY RIGHT on illegal immigration...that includes accepting undocumented citizens from another country. He is not racist...he believes in the constitution, law and order. Right now the US is in DISORDER.


Where does it say in the constitution that you are allowed to document everyone of a certain religion?



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: forkedtongue

So you'd vote for the devil if he said that after election he'd steal everyone's souls that voted for him? Hey at least he's honest right?


I find it hilarious to hear all these anti-Trump people just bitching about why they won't support him yet the same people who bitch about Trump NEVER EVER SAY WHO THEY WILL SUPPORT COME ELECTION TIME!!!

All you anti-Trump people are sheeple!!!!


What does who I'm supporting have to do with anything? For one, the Presidential candidate I'm supporting is irrelevant to a discussion about Donald Trump (unless I happen to be supporting the Trump that is). For two, you never asked. I'm not ashamed of telling you who I support. It's Bernie Sanders. Why are you getting so bent out of shape because I didn't read your mind and address your concern before you had to resort to using the caps lock key for the very first thing you say to me in this thread?


Why am I NOT SURPRISED?! Just another closet democrat.

Btw, every time you criticize Trump you never say who you would vote for and on TOP of THAT, never say how your candidate would resolve the issue.

On that note, everyone who bashes Trump never backs up an alternative solution by the candidate they would choose for president.

That is what is wrong with everyone on here....always bitch but never show their face on who they support and why they would do a better job. That, to me, is disgusting. I shouldn't have to ask...it should be straightforward. Hence...SHEEPLE!



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Btw...Trump is VERY RIGHT on illegal immigration...that includes accepting undocumented citizens from another country. He is not racist...he believes in the constitution, law and order. Right now the US is in DISORDER.


Where does it say in the constitution that you are allowed to document everyone of a certain religion?


Oh quit using religion as an excuse to allow for illegal immigration. Btw...how about you copy and paste the constitution on here and YOU show me where it says that...oh and I thought that was called LAW????
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Why am I NOT SURPRISED?! Just another closet democrat.


Is this supposed to be offensive or something?


Btw, every time you criticize Trump you never say who you would vote for and on TOP of THAT, never say how your candidate would resolve the issue.


I just TOLD you who I'd vote for and as for what Bernie would do to resolve this issue, he is for not sacrificing freedom for security. But then again, this is moving the goal posts. Your first caps lock ridden post just demanded to know who I was voting for, not what he was going to do about these "problems".


On that note, everyone who bashes Trump never backs up an alternative solution by the candidate they would choose for president.


That's because Trump blows most of the things he thinks are issues out of the water. Why should an opposing candidate come up with a solution for something they don't think is a problem?


That is what is wrong with everyone on here....always bitch but never show their face on who they support and why they would do a better job. That, to me, is disgusting. I shouldn't have to ask...it should be straightforward. Hence...SHEEPLE!


Again. I JUST told you I support Bernie. Are you even listening to this or are you just talking to hear yourself talk?
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Btw...Trump is VERY RIGHT on illegal immigration...that includes accepting undocumented citizens from another country. He is not racist...he believes in the constitution, law and order. Right now the US is in DISORDER.


Where does it say in the constitution that you are allowed to document everyone of a certain religion?


Oh quit using religion as an excuse to allow for illegal immigration. Btw...how about you copy and paste the constitution on here and YOU show me where it says that...oh and I thought that was called LAW????


Why should I prove your illogical argument for you? You said that Trump supports the constitution. So tell me where it says in the constitution that you are allowed to register all people of a certain religion (in this case Muslims).

For clarity sake, I'm talking about this Trumpism:

Trump: ‘Absolutely’ Register All Muslims In A Database
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I give you props for coming out of the closet....so thank you



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Skywatcher2011

If you have a choice of crap versus s___ what are you suppose to do choose the less crappie

That’s all you can do other than choose nothing


But to pretend crap doesn’t smell is delusional



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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There have been some real crazy things said by Trump since he threw his hat in the ring, but this one is totally unbelievable.

There's been quite a number of shootings over the last few years and most republicans claim that to do anything about gun ownership would be real hasty and the wrong thing to do.

Then they have a shooting involving a Muslim couple, 2 people and now the Trumpster wants to ban all Muslims from entering the country. People are lapping it up as if he is some kind of Messiah, crazy crazy times.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

It is not about religion. It is about immigration. Stay on target...Stay on target...If there were Christians immigrating to the US in the same numbers and when they got here they were causing terrorist incidents or recruiting or supporting foreign terror groups they would be put under a microscope as well. Right now, the hot button is Islam so that is what is broadcast across America.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Are we having the same conversation? I'm completely lost here...



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Btw...Trump is VERY RIGHT on illegal immigration...that includes accepting undocumented citizens from another country. He is not racist...he believes in the constitution, law and order. Right now the US is in DISORDER.


Where does it say in the constitution that you are allowed to document everyone of a certain religion?


Oh quit using religion as an excuse to allow for illegal immigration. Btw...how about you copy and paste the constitution on here and YOU show me where it says that...oh and I thought that was called LAW????


Why should I prove your illogical argument for you? You said that Trump supports the constitution. So tell me where it says in the constitution that you are allowed to register all people of a certain religion (in this case Muslims).


It is your argument, so you prove it. Quit being so lazy...if you want to bring in the question 'where'.... then you find it.



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: amicktd

So you're in favor of keeping other possible extremists out until we fix this problem or you're not? America is already aware of the right-wing sovereign citizen terrorists that we have, one being the entire black lives matter movement. Why bring more when we have enough to deal with?


I'm all for weeding out the extremists and not letting them in America. The problem I have is banning all muslims only...that's just ignorant and not gonna solve anything. Especially since the right-wing extremists are creating more terror than the jihadists in America. I keep hearing we should ban them until we fix the terrorism issue. The problem I have with that is how do you prevent terrorism?

Terrorism will always be around. Someone somewhere will always disagree with something and take it to an extreme. That's just life, so lets be real for a second. There are billions of people on this planet with different ideologies. This is one of the many reasons I got out of the military. We were fighting a never ending war. Now the word terrorist has become so broad, I don't even know how to define a terrorist. Hell if I had my way, I would eradicate religion as a whole since it has a history of this type of violence.
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Really? But aren't these YOUR words?


Btw...Trump is VERY RIGHT on illegal immigration...that includes accepting undocumented citizens from another country. He is not racist...he believes in the constitution, law and order. Right now the US is in DISORDER.


Well I showed you something that Trump wants to do. If he believes in the constitution then it must be in there somewhere right? So show me. Stop trying to push the burden of proof on to me. MY argument is that Trump would sooner use the Constitution for toilet paper than actually respect it. For MY evidence, I cite the very thing you are trying to squirm out of proving. It is a 1st Amendment violation to register all Muslims in a database. Done.
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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To Trump and his so called constitution followers


The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting

"I believe Trump's unprecedented proposal would violate our Constitution," said Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. "Both the First Amendment's Religion Clauses and the equality dimension of the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment."
www.nbcnews.com...


Trump will find some hack, crank to say his ideas are constitutional



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:07 PM
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First off, we can't keep unwanted Mexicans out of the country and the racist Trump wants to ban a WHOLE other demographic. Seriously, his rhetoric is getting out of hand. I feel like the Grand Wizard of the KKK is running for President AND somehow being successful. Is this the Twilight Zone...?


I was close to taking Trump seriously for awhile. I admit that
much. But the more I hear this guys bombastic out bursts.
i'm beginning to see that if he were elected it would go
straight to his head. And his melon is already swollen
so bad he has to do the comb over. He's great with
money but that kind of power? He wouldn't handle it
right and probably just get himself assassinated
anyway. We've seen enough of that so, now i
say nah, no Trump.
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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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Yes. Whether the solution is viable or in line with American values is a different question. A solution, whether good or bad, is a solution.


More word games?

You yourself say you're against prohibiting Muslims from entering the country, yet you claim Trumps critics offer no solutions - when they obviously have

Do you think that Trump is being treated unfairly? :-)



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Really? But aren't these YOUR words?


Btw...Trump is VERY RIGHT on illegal immigration...that includes accepting undocumented citizens from another country. He is not racist...he believes in the constitution, law and order. Right now the US is in DISORDER.


Well I showed you something that Trump wants to do. If he believes in the constitution then it must be in there somewhere right? So show me. Stop trying to push the burden of proof on to me. MY argument is that Trump would sooner use the Constitution for toilet paper than actually respect it. For MY evidence, I cite the very thing you are trying to squirm out of proving. It is a 1st Amendment violation to register all Muslims in a database. Done.


Yeah, that is what I said...is that he believes in the constitution. Did I lie about it? No, those are HIS words, not mine. Just because I said what he said doesn't mean I need to dumpster dive for your question. Don't give me commands for research that you should be doing as opposition. That is sheer laziness. I am not one of those people that if you told me to jump I would ask how high.

Edit...please add a link to your source please.


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posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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Where does he say it? He is talking about illegal immigration or immigration in general. He then talks about the current pisspoor management that allowed Farook and wife into the country.

He also does not say to go to mosques to sign up. He says somewhere the information should be collected and that is ICE. Part of the DHS. This is where it should be collected. After 9/11 it was needed because of the communication breakdown that led to the terrorists who were here on student visas, not a spouse visa, to stay in the country.

I guess I really have to laugh also because the 'database' is already there. Only today it goes after right wing leaning conservatives through the IRS. That is another story though...



posted on Dec, 8 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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What does muslims denouncing the SB attacks have to do not letting more possible muslims come into America?


Nothing. That was in response to the specific post you made. Go back and read it.



You should lighten up, it's not just teenage girls that laugh.


True, but it has been my experience that teenage girls talk in text-speech.

I despise text talk because I think it detracts from an intelligent conversation.



You should probably educate yourself in what right-wing extremism is, because "right-wing" would also apply to groups like Black Lives Matter. They fall under the "reactionary" definition of right-wing, just like those lone wolves.


This is called obfuscation and doesn't mean anything in context with the current discussion.



Lol @ blaming right wing media again.


Talking like a teeny again? OMG.....how cute.



How am I contradicting myself?


The narrative that you built that Right Wing Christian terrorists are lone nuts, yet Islamic terrorism should be enough to shut down the borders.




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