‘Nostradamus of the Balkans’

a reply to: St Udio

I get you and understand what you are saying, but as someone else pointed out earlier in the thread, "If the whole of the EU was left lifeless, how could ISIS control their Caliphate from Rome?"

originally posted by: SuperFrog

originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: SuperFrog

the start of the video... the chant reminded me of:


we were coaxed (back in the hippy days of '68) to accept the free ride to the community center of the Nam-Yo-Ho-Reng-Ge-Kyo chanting cult...

the big thing they wanted the new followers to do was to BUY a personal 'Temple' from their supply house...

the 'temple/shrine' to chant at (or something) was much like the small containment thing/storage bin that holds the 'Chalice'....

Every Catholic Church has a similar shrine that is called by Catholics a 'Tabernacle' sitting at the center of the Alter at each & every Church that serves 'communion wafers'

ISIS takes Rome

Thought it followed the theme of this thread.

a reply to: Xitap

No, I didn't say I don't believe you. I m 100% open minded.

Can you tell us how much did you pay? I assume she was collecting money if people were coming whole day. So how much did you and how much did a person that you bodyguarded paid?

Just so we know how much her services costed .

a reply to: Xitap

Actually I am one that said I don't trust you, but nothing personal - I just don't trust everything I see or hear on internet in general.

Simple reason I don't trust in those stories about Baba Vanga and similar prophets - I did not find single reason to believe that this life already happened or that someone for whatever reason can know the future. On the other hand, there are countless of those who think they know, or who think that some of fairy tale books contain prophecy.

As kid I was interested in this, read everything I could find about it... but after bit more research and thanks to Google, it turns out that all of it was fabricated. I still don't get why some want to exploit people with this kind of garbage and I find it very unethical and in many cases dangerous... (healing powers etc.)

Amazing Randy offered 1 million dollars to anyone proving any paranormal abilities... this is going of decades... many took challenge - no one ever won a penny?! What that tells you??

Where are you getting Arab Spring out of "arapskim"?

en.wiktionary.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: saadad
a reply to: Xitap

No, I didn't say I don't believe you. I m 100% open minded.

Can you tell us how much did you pay? I assume she was collecting money if people were coming whole day. So how much did you and how much did a person that you bodyguarded paid?

Just so we know how much her services costed .

When Valko Chervenkov (person, who i was assigned to) went to Vanga, he paid nothing. Because he was from the ruling Communist Party, and as u assume, he wasn't ordinary person. When i visited her on my own, i paid with donations to the church there (she wanted donation from me, not cash). First time i have donated a specific icon of Saint Georgi The Winner, and second time i have donated money (equal to 5 grams of gold today). Remember exact price, because i was in dilemma what to give - gold or money. Her services was free, ruling communist party wanted from her to take money. But most of the people, entered in her house, was giving fruits, vegetables and other barter stuff, made donations... those times people were poor. And when i am saying poor - bananas was available to be bought only in Christmas to New Year time, best car was Soviet Union Lada, no big shops, no malls... there was some special shops for Western goods, but only available with dollars. But dollars was only for international truck drivers, ship crews and very few specific positions, and under strict control. It is very hard to explain something, that u don't know and never experienced. Like this communism (called socialism now). It was something like 45 years slavery to the nation. And even now damages done then, can't be repaired.

a reply to: Xitap

In what year did you visit her? Alone and with that communist guy. Did you visit her at church or at her home?

originally posted by: saadad
a reply to: Xitap

In what year did you visit her? Alone and with that communist guy. Did you visit her at church or at her home?

Her home as all the visitors! The church was close to her home and she admired it a lot. Check this info: en.wikipedia.org...
This is the area, where Vanga lived.

First time visited her was in 1984, i was fresh graduate from Police Academy, second time was in 1988, and third was in 1991.

Check this also: bulgariatravel.org...

originally posted by: saadad
a reply to: flammadraco
So she sees the future but she is not 100% correct all the time. Give me the breaks, whether she see the future or don't see. It is simple as that.

Basketball is the most obvious sport in the world but even the best players on earth don't make it through the hoop all the time. Yet somehow an art that is subtle and nebulous and has to translate through the nervous system and into words is expected to be literal and perfect all the time or a fraud.

originally posted by: saadad
a reply to: Xitap
In other words you were weak and afraid of the future so you visit a witch to make you a future.

The sheer insulting arrogance and assumption of people never ceases to amaze me.

I would like to thank those from Ms. Vanga's area and especially the man who met her three times and had a session with her, for sharing their accounts. I apologize on behalf of the religious-style-zealotry of people who have such an emotional reaction to such topics that they cannot seem to help but be condescending and attacking. Please know that in the larger world of this forum there are many who look on but do not say anything, but who also appreciate you.

You are not obliged to be interrogated, insulted, or to answer the many hypothetical areas people try to push these topics into (e.g. that everything be accurate, or that if X is so, then surely a whole spectrum of other topics must be). You can leave a thread or only respond to what you feel like spending your time on -- it is your time, nobody else's.

RC

originally posted by: ginseng23
Where are you getting Arab Spring out of "arapskim"?
en.wiktionary.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

If someone could answer this question that would be grand. I don't know what her original word was but I would like to know its meaning rather than its assumption.

a reply to: RedCairo



" Arapskim proljećem "

Yep sure enough. Very strange, that the very specific term would have been used by her.
Sorry my browser was truncated when I read the original first page of this thread.

She really told arab spring in bulgarian dialect. But this is not so important. Her words for Third war are very popular - after Damascus is wiped (or the prince of Damascus according to some russian visitors) the World will start great war. In Europe Prague will be erased from the map and the war will escalate. Russia will reach Spain in days. And at the same time great natural disaster will happen from the sky. Will happen in USA. I can't remember her words then, they looked hilarious in 1993, but after that things started to happen. After her death a lot of media changed her words and predictions. I can't remember original, they were shown on TV then.

ok we have also a version of it, it seems each faction manipulates her thing and present it as original or she is a fraud.

In our version she says christians with the head of (Russia) will take over europe... she does not say china will be super power and europe a mongolish territory..
lol

If you dont believe me, take a greek article! link

The translation from auto translate is a bit off, so i made some fix to the 21st century predictions

As for the 21st century, Vang was clear: the world will dominated by... Russia! Here's what she said once, about the Cold War: "Now Russia is called as Union. But one day Russia will change to the old Russia, and will called as it did in the times of St. Sergius. The intellectual superiority will be recognized by everybody, including America. This will happen after 60 years. Before that (Russia) will ally with two more countries: China, India and Russia and they will find a common point. Bulgaria will survive only if they are together with Russia as a part of Russia. Without Russia Bulgaria has no future! "

I will give you some real thing, in a few years Apollonas will return and everybody will be a smoke, all enemies up to the fifth dimension (Except humans)... bum kabum.

ps: the version I read up to 5000++ age, looks like chinese manipulation/mongolish, you can read it here www.abovetopsecret.com...

Last night there was a movie for her on national TV, called The Phenomena. I will search for it to publish link here. Yes, she really told Russia will be the main country in coming future. Will see if this is going to happen. So far Damascus is here, Prague is thriving and Assad is still president. But who knows, things are very dynamic these days.

a reply to: Xitap

So we have the real thing (the one I posted)... the topic bellow is a hoax

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It was very obvious for me, because the up to 3900ac is a chinese dream, cyborgs, rulership of the planet along with the mongoloids, destruction of the universe at the end (its like a japaneze RPG, reading the prophecies) and varga she is not a Sybille!!! This lady prophecies dont even go further 2040-80 maximum, the 3900+ is a HOAX...!

These prophecies bellow sound strange for spiritual humans... ( Humans become half robots - it is something we see today, from humans who actually dont believe in spirit and soul - because they dont have any or its very weak/corrupted)... Humans achieve immortality - but real humans are immortal, with immortal souls and spirit. The memory thing (we forget our past lives is a another story - it has to do with Gnostics, they answer why people forget their past lives).

anyway, I hope I helped

The main reason her predictions to be "forged" are because she wasn't got any education, nor grammar. All her words were told and not written. She just couldn't write (this was normal for people born before WW2) and a lot of speculations were made. So her real predictions spread to 2060. She also have very rare predictions for 3000+ year, telling some armed forces through Alps and some free energy source (not telling spiritual or other). But mostly big things will happen in these years now to 2020.

a reply to: Xitap

I ve read in an article years ago, that she was very popular in Russia and many Russian officials gave her a visit.. (not sure if its true). But all the articles Ive read about her in the past, she doesnt go further from 2040-50... the article about 3900 sounds like a joke and its not spiritual (it sounds more like a wannabe, dream).

She also spoke about the Sun event in the beginning of ww3, but thats an old prophecy, its not something new. After the SUN event and lots of destructions, I think she spoke about a new era. Thats all I remember.

Never been a fun of her, the things she said was known, she only gave details about the prewar and during the war things... After the Sun event, not much will be left behind and its something we know since 4000-6000bc (from Sybille). All new prophets give the same things from ancient times, with some tweaks depending the nationality of the prophet (country).

But there is always a bigger fish (dont mess with the original).. lol