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San Bernandino, another false flag?

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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:05 PM
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So apparently Tashfeen Malik, the lady implicated in the shootings, was a frail 90 pound lady with absolutely no shooting experience. Born and raised in Jeddah, she would have had a very, very sheltered life, and it is almost impossible to imagine such military tactics coming from her, especially as she is the mother of her first-born child, a 7-month old infant.

Additionally, the couple's bodies were found handcuffed, lying face down in the truck, shot-up.

Syed Farook's family is absolutely shocked as well, and could not see him doing something like this. His own sister came out on television and said she couldn't imagine her brother acting in this manner. (She did go on to say that if he did, the family is very angry and hurt, which is understandable).

Seriously, I am not at all into conspiracy theories, but this case just doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever.

I hope the community is extra persistent in demanding to VERIFY any evidence presented. Sadly, we have seen explicit evidence of some corrupt authorities manipulating the truth (e.g., case of Chicago police shootings recently).

If indeed the couple is guilty, I have no sympathy for them. But at this stage, presented with what we know, I can't help feel something is seriously wrong with the picture being presented, and that we are being asked to believe something that really doesn't add up.




Alex Jones:



In an interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo the San Bernardino shooters' family attorney has questions about key facts of the investigation:






Now the police say this shooting started because of a dispute at a party, at which point the shooters went home, dressed in what mainstream media calls assault clothing and grabbed assault rifles.

There are also reports of bombs at the scene, which tells me that this is a premeditated attack.

Nurses in the center thought today’s shooting was a drill.

This occurred in a area with gun control already in place and monsters like Hillary Clinton have taken to Twitter to call for more gun control.
The weapons used were illegally obtained, so how can more gun control counter that? This has false flag written all over it. What do you think?
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: ElectricFeel

It is glaringly obvious that this is the case.

However 24 hour news cycles adding to the past 15 years of programmed fear of "radical muslims" is all that people will talk about as opposed to actually thinking about the story and the way everything has been handled.

Even on this website which is a sight dedicated to conspiracies, you have people guilt shaming you for not caring about the victims for questioning the official story. When in reality questioning the lies of the MSM is exactly how one honors the victims.

Psy-ops are the norm, they are easy to spot they are given 24 hour repetitive programming in this case "fear the muslims" and "we need gun control"

edit- thought I would add some good threads that have led me to describe it as glaringly obvious

BIZARRE: Media allowed into CA terrorists

Two Eyewitnesses Affirm CA Shooters were 3 WHITE MaleS

Add to that the training exercise, the news castors referring to the terrorists as "actors", and that blatant free mason reference from one of the "eye witnesses"


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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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I'm replying because you asked, "What do you think?" and not, "What says you?" or "What says you, ATS?"






Believe in nothing,
Except yourself.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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Are you a sexist?

Frail women?

The US just opened all combat roles to women in the military.

There is no weight requirements that I have seen.

Kurdish women fighters with guns have defeated many savage muslim men.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:26 PM
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Very good observation.....
I mean these days we should demand transparency.....that's what we told 8 years ago....don't ya know

common sense says duck and cover .....Yahushua said " hold on to what you have, till I return."



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Are you a sexist?

Frail women?

The US just opened all combat roles to women in the military.

There is no weight requirements that I have seen.

Kurdish women fighters with guns have defeated many savage muslim men.



Don't try and derail the thread ...


He was making an observation and it was more then just her weight .


Anyway , OP i fully agree , I feel it was a FF opperation no doubt. It all makes sens , US needs boots on the gorund in syria before Russia can take control. Plan A was "Assad using gas" that failed to get support . Plab B was "support rebel factions to overthrow assad " that started working until the Russian Bear stepped in . Plan C boots on the ground. That would require a fearful islamaphobia nation. And thus far it seems to be working . it's evident on ATS.

Any intelligent person who's been following these middle east issues should be able to see the bull # placed in front of them. But then again we have people who simply refuse to Deny Ignorance.


Kap



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: elementalgrove

And yet you and the OP believe some guy on YouTube that was nowhere involved in the event, in the investigation, or is anywhere near where it happened. A mashup of clips from the news rehashed by someone and putting a different spin on the picture is not evidence, it is not investigating, it is complete assumption.

This happens to literally every mainstream news event nowadays, and someone always brings it up as a false-flag as they sit in their computer chair half way across the country.

The main things these guys are doing regardless is taking the things your evil main stream media puts out on almost no information, and spins it their own way to get the viewer to watch their channel instead of the other guys, and claims it as the smoking gun. How can you say do not trust the media when your videos are directly quoting the media's coverage in their argument.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:38 PM
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Fast and Furious was a false flag where Obama and Eric Holder were not supposed to get caught, but they were caught red handed, and they did that with mal-intent towards every American Citizen. To steal away your rights by fraud and by deception. And that SOB is still going strong, free to commit more and more of them unstopped.
His actions after every subsequent event show his involvement of fostering these false flags. Obama has already shown he will stoop to any level including anything illegal in order to get those guns away from the law abiding.

Now he wants everyone to surrender to terrorists and let them kill you.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricFeel
So apparently Tashfeen Malik, the lady implicated in the shootings, was a frail 90 pound lady with absolutely no shooting experience. Born and raised in Jeddah, she would have had a very, very sheltered life, and it is almost impossible to imagine such military tactics coming from her, especially as she is the mother of her first-born child, a 7-month old infant.


How would we know this to be absolutely true? it's not difficult to get shooting experience. I've fired all sorts of guns at ranges with friends of mine, my family would never know that because it's inconsequential and not something I bring up at dinner conversations because it's just a side thing that happens occasionally. Her weight also doesn't mean much, I've seen kids that than shoot better than many adults.




Additionally, the couple's bodies were found handcuffed, lying face down in the truck, shot-up.



Are you insinuating the police found them that way? because that's not true .. I've seen plenty of situations where the person is cuffed after a shootout even if they are presumed dead, simply as a precaution.



Syed Farook's family is absolutely shocked as well, and could not see him doing something like this. His own sister came out on television and said she couldn't imagine her brother acting in this manner. (She did go on to say that if he did, the family is very angry and hurt, which is understandable).


I't not surprising to me that the family wouldn't know.. they usually don't.



Seriously, I am not at all into conspiracy theories, but this case just doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever.

I hope the community is extra persistent in demanding to VERIFY any evidence presented. Sadly, we have seen explicit evidence of some corrupt authorities manipulating the truth (e.g., case of Chicago police shootings recently).

If indeed the couple is guilty, I have no sympathy for them. But at this stage, presented with what we know, I can't help feel something is seriously wrong with the picture being presented, and that we are being asked to believe something that really doesn't add up.




Alex Jones:



In an interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo the San Bernardino shooters' family attorney has questions about key facts of the investigation:






Now the police say this shooting started because of a dispute at a party, at which point the shooters went home, dressed in what mainstream media calls assault clothing and grabbed assault rifles.



The gentleman that he was in a dispute with is supposedly notoriously vocal about his beliefs and tended to preach to people.. that's what I read.. and apparently they've had a bit of a history of dispute.




There are also reports of bombs at the scene, which tells me that this is a premeditated attack.

Nurses in the center thought today’s shooting was a drill.

This occurred in a area with gun control already in place and monsters like Hillary Clinton have taken to Twitter to call for more gun control.
The weapons used were illegally obtained, so how can more gun control counter that? This has false flag written all over it. What do you think?



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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How many times does the term "false flag" get uses on here?

Every time something happens, I see it being used and there is always nothing to it. Is it just a way to get stars and flags?

Why is it so hard to believe that the world is just filled with crazies?
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: CalibratedZeus

Do you know why it happens every time "these days"? Because time and time again these events are proven to have more questions than answers. Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, 9/11, Aurora, Seik Temple in Milwaukee, etc on down the line.

True investigative journalism does not happen from the government controlled media, it happens online, you have to sift through the info and with time the official story always falls on its face, however the attention span of most people causes them to never think of these issues again, except for the effective fear.

The MSM, is used by people analyzing their stories, why would they not quote them directly when the contradict themselves.

Operation Mockingbird is barely scratching the surface of how the elite control the consciousness of the masses through the media. Fear is and always has been used to steer us into the Orwellian nightmare we find ourselves in, condition the slave to want his oppression.
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:46 PM
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We are not supposed to know these details but thanks for sharing.
suffice it to say media, their friends and family, and government are getting away with bloody murder.
we'll look back in a few years and kick ourselves for not realizing how gradual martial law and genocide cane to be while our founding fathers look down in utter dismay of what we've become.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Are you a sexist?

Frail women?

The US just opened all combat roles to women in the military.

There is no weight requirements that I have seen.

Kurdish women fighters with guns have defeated many savage muslim men.


Are you ignoring the "no background with weapons"... using a single fact, and an irrelevant one at that, doesn't not a raional rebuttal make.

No one said anything about women being incompetent in combat roles - EXCEPT YOU. Misogynistic Much????



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: elementalgrove

Funny how that 'third' suspect seems to have fallen off the radar....



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:53 PM
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Bloody off-topic and offensive....



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 06:59 PM
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If the couple was found handcuffed in the truck then who was it laying on the opposite side of the road in a pool of blood, and then later on handcuffed and still in a pool of blood?

I mean that was broadcast live so...?

Anything is a false flag when you make up facts as you go.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: elementalgrove

I believe the "Office of Policy Coordination" is alive and well today.
I have no proof.
PAG as well!

I was reading today in honor of the Pearl Harbor attack anniversary and am going to begin researching one of the POW camps here in Tennessee. Seeing if there is a link to how well they were treated and how readily this camp was accepted by the "locals". Maybe it was used as a information/intelligence gathering type gateway...

*sorry OP that was getting off topic...



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: theonenonlyone
How many times does the term "false flag" get uses on here?

Every time something happens, I see it being used and there is always nothing to it. Is it just a way to get stars and flags?

Why is it so hard to believe that the world is just filled with crazies?


On ATS?

Extremely hard to believe.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Are you a sexist?

Frail women?

The US just opened all combat roles to women in the military.

There is no weight requirements that I have seen.

Kurdish women fighters with guns have defeated many savage muslim men.


Are you ignoring the "no background with weapons"... using a single fact, and an irrelevant one at that, doesn't not a raional rebuttal make.

No one said anything about women being incompetent in combat roles - EXCEPT YOU. Misogynistic Much????


The OP states Tashfeen had absolutely no shooting experience. OP tied in her upbringing as to why she had no shooting experience.

Seems germane to me, since her upbringing was brought into it. I'd like to know how the OP can state she had no shooting experience whatsoever.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 07:21 PM
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You are spot on!

The history of the CIA is a major part of the reason, I question all of these events, it just makes sense that they would be capable of orchestrating these tragedies and setting up the patsies.

They rely on the greater percentage of people to have their brains programmed by the TV and simply rinse and repeat the tactics employed after the kennedy assassination, get people to self censor because only a crackpot would ever question the official story.
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