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A Canadian Perspective on U.S. and Guns

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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Kukri

Mind you just read about this.

www.history.com...

Go Canada
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Shush Boymonkey that is pure socialist propaganda right there! How could a country with free healthcare and no guns beat the almighty and exceptional US of A?

Silly Primate.




posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: Kukri


Now that right there is a terrifying thought! I would venture the only nation that has ever conceived of invading Canada was the US. (Ok maybe the USSR for a minute or two but they probably shook their collective heads and giggled later)


Of course you feel that way, ingrates usually do. You wouldn't though, when the time came. I must add, I'm not surprised that when offered a conceptual hand of unity and allegiance, a Canadian, such as yourself, #s in said hand...Figures.
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: superman2012

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: jacygirl
Maybe if Canada and others read and understood at least some of what started the American Revolution, they would understand why Americans hang on to their guns. This country has been through the gun control issue before with the Redcoats. This would be a very different nation today if our forefathers had not stood their ground.
The American Revolution Against Gun Control


A different time, a different place. Using 250 year old thinking isn't getting you any closer to solving a problem now is it? Link

I am Canadian. I see the whole "we need our guns because it's our right" as actually, "I need a gun because I am afraid".

Hunters and police are the only ones who need guns. The rest are either going to commit a crime, or are fearful. IMO.


It's actually enlightenment era thinking that I 300+ years old but I guess your elite canadian education didn't teach the history of revolutions.

It's only lazy thinkers that think restricting guns is the answer. It's a feel good no effort solution.

How do the gangs who contribute to 90 percent of gun violence get guns? Illegally. Why? Because there are more than 300 million in circulation. How would they be removed? Search and seizure? Possibly 100 million firearms unregistered. How do they find those? You think nut jobs will stop when wallmart makes it harder to buy guns?

Obviously there are things we could do with licensing but its unlikely the left and right will show any leadership on the issue. They are like telemarketers reading a script. Gun restrictions are the least effective method for stopping gun violence.

I would trust the thinking of Locke, Rouseau, Jefferson and Adams far more than the lack of thinking today. Nobody thinks deeply today its all about me me me and what toys can I have.

Laziness has nothing to do with my post. Poor education and poor upbringing has lead to the current gun crazy problem that is happening in the US.

Restricting guns and making it hard to buy them will be the answer, but you have to try to think forward more than 10+ years, that is hard for some to do, hence the "it will never work" answer. If you give a well thought out (and proven) solution enough time, it will work. Licensing is another solution, hefty fines and/or jail time for resellers that don't follow protocol. There are soo many ways to make it harder to get a gun, you just can't expect instant results, otherwise I have to respond to posts like these.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

Couldn't care less how Canadians feel about guns....


About on a par with how much you care what Americans think about hockey....


What if they played hockey with guns?



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: Kukri


Now that right there is a terrifying thought! I would venture the only nation that has ever conceived of invading Canada was the US. (Ok maybe the USSR for a minute or two but they probably shook their collective heads and giggled later)


Of course you feel that way, ingrates usually do. You wouldn't though, when the time came.


You know you really should follow the thread that way you would of gotten my tongue in cheek attitude. Now get back in the car



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: jacygirl
Maybe if Canada and others read and understood at least some of what started the American Revolution, they would understand why Americans hang on to their guns. This country has been through the gun control issue before with the Redcoats. This would be a very different nation today if our forefathers had not stood their ground.
The American Revolution Against Gun Control



Likley not.

Only difference really would have been abolishing slavery 20 years earlier. Have the Stars and union jack flag and having a Prime minister instead of a president and a parliment rather than a sentate. Either way like Canada you would have had your independence . The American war of independence was really just a waste of time and life’s on both sides.


Let the USA have its boom boom sticks though. It might very well need them if they go full retard and vote Trump in.....
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Kukri
Interesting article and one that for the most part reflects Canadian attitudes towards weapons. Note I said weapons as opposed to guns. the difference being guns are a tool usually for hunting or sport shooting, weapons have one purpose and that's to kill people.

I have no problem with people owning guns but I do have a problem with a person that owns weapons for the sole purpose of "self-defence" Admittedly I also live in Canada and we do not have to worry about being shot by a mugger,thief, gang banger, nutjob whatever and I guess that's the difference. Maybe if I lived in a country where violent gun crime was a problem I would alter my attitude towards this.

Is there a solution to the problems plaguing our brothers and sisters to the south? Possibly but it will take decades and a lot of calm and rational thought to find an equitable solution to such a social enigma.

Disclaimer: There was a time many moons ago when I owned almost a dozen long guns and several handguns. I lost interest in hunting and practical shooting and couldn't justify the cost of either so chose to sell them legally to friends.





ETA: Good to see you around Jacygirl, haven't seen you around in a bit. Happy Holidays


Really? You don't have to worry about gang bangers and the like?? That depends on where you live, methinks. I spend much time on both sides of the border. Currently residing in Blaine, Wa. (A suburb of White Rock, B.C.....
) I assure you I am MUCH safer in an armed Blaine than anyone living in Surrey, B.C....

Not even close.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Gun Hockey!! the new sport for the 21st century we could be millionaires!.
Or Girl Gun Hockey in Bikinis!!.
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: Kukri

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: jacygirl


But when it comes to guns they're brothers from another planet."

SNIP
LOVE, cuz. Oh, btw, rest well tonight as untold millions of gun-toting redneck 'Muricans would absolutely flood your country if someone attacked Canada. We'd "bring the pain," so to speak. Then Canada would appreciate and understand.


Now that right there is a terrifying thought! I would venture the only nation that has ever conceived of invading Canada was the US. (Ok maybe the USSR for a minute or two but they probably shook their collective heads and giggled later)


Don't worry, it won't happen. Not like the local police get inundated with people wanting to join after a mass shooting in their own cities.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: nwtrucker

Couldn't care less how Canadians feel about guns....


About on a par with how much you care what Americans think about hockey....


What if they played hockey with guns?


An interesting replacement for the penalty box......


The game would get much 'cleaner'....
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: Klassified

I totally agree with you, Klass.

Many feel our government has turned on us with intent, and, our defense of the 2nd Amendment is symbolic of our strength and resolve against an oppressive force, much like the Am. Rev.. I say symbolic because many, many people do not possess a firearm but would fight the fight to let other fellow Americans keep theirs.

Our government has historically and deliberately, chipped away at the American rights, fundamental to who we are, thus rendering us nearly unrecognizable to ourselves today.

We cling to our gun rights because once we surrender them, what happens next?

Koolaide.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74

Gun Hockey!! the new sport for the 21st century we could be millionaires!.


Until I cross check you in the gob with my Armalite on a breakaway.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: nwtrucker

Couldn't care less how Canadians feel about guns....


About on a par with how much you care what Americans think about hockey....


What if they played hockey with guns?


Skeet hockey! I like it.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Nah I'm a Brit not crazy enough for hockey nor guns I will let you guys across the pond play the sport I just own it and it's seven leagues.

Just like the Rothchilds



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
Just like the Rothchilds



I want the New York franchise, we can call it the Evil Joos. Or is that redundant?



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: Klassified


Our government has historically and deliberately, chipped away at the American rights, fundamental to who we are, thus rendering us nearly unrecognizable to ourselves today.

We cling to our gun rights because once we surrender them, what happens next?

Koolaide.



I think what you have written there is extremely true/real/important!

Trust me...Canadians aren't happy to see the constant shootings in the news. We aren't happy to see pics/videos showing Detroit looking like some post-apocalyptic ghost town. We are an invisible line (border) away from you.
We would much prefer that your people felt happy and safe.

jacy



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: Kukri
Interesting article and one that for the most part reflects Canadian attitudes towards weapons. Note I said weapons as opposed to guns. the difference being guns are a tool usually for hunting or sport shooting, weapons have one purpose and that's to kill people.

I have no problem with people owning guns but I do have a problem with a person that owns weapons for the sole purpose of "self-defence" Admittedly I also live in Canada and we do not have to worry about being shot by a mugger,thief, gang banger, nutjob whatever and I guess that's the difference. Maybe if I lived in a country where violent gun crime was a problem I would alter my attitude towards this.

Is there a solution to the problems plaguing our brothers and sisters to the south? Possibly but it will take decades and a lot of calm and rational thought to find an equitable solution to such a social enigma.

Disclaimer: There was a time many moons ago when I owned almost a dozen long guns and several handguns. I lost interest in hunting and practical shooting and couldn't justify the cost of either so chose to sell them legally to friends.





ETA: Good to see you around Jacygirl, haven't seen you around in a bit. Happy Holidays


Really? You don't have to worry about gang bangers and the like?? That depends on where you live, methinks. I spend much time on both sides of the border. Currently residing in Blaine, Wa. (A suburb of White Rock, B.C.....
) I assure you I am MUCH safer in an armed Blaine than anyone living in Surrey, B.C....

Not even close.


3 or 4 cities out of an entire country does not a gang problem make. Can you say the same even on a per capita basis? Maybe we should compare violent crime stats or incarceration rates?



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: jacygirl
Maybe if Canada and others read and understood at least some of what started the American Revolution, they would understand why Americans hang on to their guns. This country has been through the gun control issue before with the Redcoats. This would be a very different nation today if our forefathers had not stood their ground.
The American Revolution Against Gun Control



Likley not.

Only difference really would have been abolishing slavery 20 years earlier. Have the Stars and union jack flag and having a Prime minister instead of a president and a parliment rather than a sentate. Either way like Canada you would have had your independence . The American war of independence was really just a waste of time and life’s on both sides.


Let the USA have its boom boom sticks though. It might very well need them if they go full retard and vote Trump in.....


About as ignorant a post you've come up with yet.

No American revolution-the high-water mark for British Imperialism- and what are the chances that Britain cedes over 3 million square miles of territory when it still controls the majority of the south? None.

The very birth of Canada is predicated by the American Revolution, my man.

It was the start of the end of real Imperialism.

Yep, the revolution was a waste of time. Have a 'nice' day...

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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: jacygirl

Trust me...Canadians aren't happy to see the constant shootings in the news. We aren't happy to see pics/videos showing Detroit looking like some post-apocalyptic ghost town.


To be fair, Detroit is not in the sorry state it is because of guns or mass-shootings.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Ooo I can name one the Dirty Redcoats!.
Jacy you have to name a Gun hokcey team now.




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