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posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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Lastly, I really want to know why you think NASA actually has the budget to do any of Chemtrailing etc. They don't. NASA has been way underfunded in recent years (for what they do) and generally underfunded since the 1970's.


Oh comeon, you know NASA gets gazillions of dolerz from the BlaCk BuDgEt for all their Sekrit Operationz. That's how they fund it. Obviously.




posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: MissVocalcord

originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
I've looked and honestly I do not see how they record these gases aerosol and Co2 it seems like to get some of there imagery and data they would have to use a tracer.

You mentioned the POLDER earlier; they still have a website online:

The ocean is almost "black" in the near infrared and its contribution is quite constant at 565 nm wavelength (away from the glitter). The aerosol over ocean inversion scheme is based on the spectral dependence in the 565-865 nm range and on the directional information of the radiance and polarized radiance. The outputs are the Aerosols Optical Thickness and the bimodal aerosol size distribution. The coarse mode of aerosols is a mixture of spherical and non spherical particles.

polder-mission.cnes.fr...
So stated very simply for the oceans; they know the background infrared, the aerosols are just above this background noise, together with the direction and polarization of the 'light'.


So what about PARASOL?



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: apex
a reply to: Bunkrbuster

How is their posting pictures of interpreted CO2 movement any different conceptually to NASA posting images of visual light, exactly? Because that's how you are coming across as asking.

Also:


. The data will be used to study interactions between aerosols and clouds that may change the amount of sunlight they reflect and absorb, or enhance or suppress precipitation: subjects of current scientific debate.

Quoting NASA on that one. So by collecting its data they can simulate a in detail data map of the weather patterns of the aerosols?


They collect the data and depict it in a nice visual model for you to look at, yes. And if you want to insinuate from the first paragraph you posted that NASA are putting the aerosols up there in the first place to look at with their satellites, it doesn't imply that.

Lastly, I really want to know why you think NASA actually has the budget to do any of Chemtrailing etc. They don't. NASA has been way underfunded in recent years (for what they do) and generally underfunded since the 1970's.


You're argument is going to be about funding? And the fact NASA has brought about clear evidence pertaining to aerosols and there movement in atmosphere does little to explain how they actual obtained there information. Can no one produce info on PARASOL project with a explanation how it's come to obtain its findings. Are we just to believe it is done and that's it?



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: MissVocalcord

originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
I've looked and honestly I do not see how they record these gases aerosol and Co2 it seems like to get some of there imagery and data they would have to use a tracer.

You mentioned the POLDER earlier; they still have a website online:

The ocean is almost "black" in the near infrared and its contribution is quite constant at 565 nm wavelength (away from the glitter). The aerosol over ocean inversion scheme is based on the spectral dependence in the 565-865 nm range and on the directional information of the radiance and polarized radiance. The outputs are the Aerosols Optical Thickness and the bimodal aerosol size distribution. The coarse mode of aerosols is a mixture of spherical and non spherical particles.

polder-mission.cnes.fr...
So stated very simply for the oceans; they know the background infrared, the aerosols are just above this background noise, together with the direction and polarization of the 'light'.


Still no explanation of why PARASOL was pulled in 2013.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: Bunkrbuster

PARASOL Ceases Operation

Launched in December 2004, the French Polarization & Anisotropy of Reflectances for Atmospheric Sciences coupled with Observations from a Lidar (PARASOL) spacecraft ceased operation on December 18, 2013.
atrain.nasa.gov...



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: Bunkrbuster

originally posted by: MissVocalcord

originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
I've looked and honestly I do not see how they record these gases aerosol and Co2 it seems like to get some of there imagery and data they would have to use a tracer.

You mentioned the POLDER earlier; they still have a website online:

The ocean is almost "black" in the near infrared and its contribution is quite constant at 565 nm wavelength (away from the glitter). The aerosol over ocean inversion scheme is based on the spectral dependence in the 565-865 nm range and on the directional information of the radiance and polarized radiance. The outputs are the Aerosols Optical Thickness and the bimodal aerosol size distribution. The coarse mode of aerosols is a mixture of spherical and non spherical particles.

polder-mission.cnes.fr...
So stated very simply for the oceans; they know the background infrared, the aerosols are just above this background noise, together with the direction and polarization of the 'light'.


Still no explanation of why PARASOL was pulled in 2013.



parasol.cnes.fr...



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: DenyObfuscation

originally posted by: Bunkrbuster

originally posted by: MissVocalcord

originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
I've looked and honestly I do not see how they record these gases aerosol and Co2 it seems like to get some of there imagery and data they would have to use a tracer.

You mentioned the POLDER earlier; they still have a website online:

The ocean is almost "black" in the near infrared and its contribution is quite constant at 565 nm wavelength (away from the glitter). The aerosol over ocean inversion scheme is based on the spectral dependence in the 565-865 nm range and on the directional information of the radiance and polarized radiance. The outputs are the Aerosols Optical Thickness and the bimodal aerosol size distribution. The coarse mode of aerosols is a mixture of spherical and non spherical particles.

polder-mission.cnes.fr...
So stated very simply for the oceans; they know the background infrared, the aerosols are just above this background noise, together with the direction and polarization of the 'light'.


Still no explanation of why PARASOL was pulled in 2013.



parasol.cnes.fr...





Still gives no direct reasoning behind it thank you though for posting that.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 08:19 PM
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originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
Still no explanation of why PARASOL was pulled in 2013.


Yes, the reason has been given.... here it is again!

directory.eoportal.org...


As the mission has gone on well beyond its expected duration,



due to insufficient ergols



In September 2009, PARASOL was already preparing to lower its orbit because of depleted propellant resources. The plan was to execute an orbit lowering maneuver on December 2, 2009. Because of minimal availability of propellant, the collision avoidance maneuver had to be kept as small as possible.


Satellite need fuel to stay in the same orbit, so when fuel starts to run out they deorbit them.
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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
Still no explanation of why PARASOL was pulled in 2013.


Yes, the reason has been given.... here it is again!

directory.eoportal.org...


As the mission has gone on well beyond its expected duration,



due to insufficient ergols



In September 2009, PARASOL was already preparing to lower its orbit because of depleted propellant resources. The plan was to execute an orbit lowering maneuver on December 2, 2009. Because of minimal availability of propellant, the collision avoidance maneuver had to be kept as small as possible.


Satellite need fuel to stay in the same orbit, so when fuel starts to run out they deorbit them.

2013 Bruce?
The PARASOL mission flies the POLDER-derived instrument as its main payload with the objective to improve the microphysical and radiative property characterization of clouds and aerosols for model improvement. Clouds and aerosols play an important role in direct and indirect radiative forcing of the Earth's energy budget. The study of the dynamic processes and interactions between liquid and solid particles (radiative properties of clouds and aerosols) in the atmosphere is therefore a major goal. PARASOL (POLDER) complements CALIPSO (Lidar) and NASA's Aqua and Aura (MODIS, CERES) missions, it also makes use of the CloudSat (CPR) radar data. The instruments form a so-called “train of satellites,” all in the same orbits and in a PM sequence (a loosely-coupled constellation), provide a unique opportunity of near-simultaneous observations, by collecting data in different spectral domains (optical and microwave regions) and at various FOVs (Field of Views). 1) 2) 3)

What's PARASOLS payload and how does following behind so closely give a unique opportunity of near-simultaneous observations? When they speak of this how can PARASOLS payload be in anyway shape or form helpful? By dumping its payload for the other satellites to record its process.



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
Still no explanation of why PARASOL was pulled in 2013.


Yes, the reason has been given.... here it is again!

directory.eoportal.org...


As the mission has gone on well beyond its expected duration,



due to insufficient ergols



In September 2009, PARASOL was already preparing to lower its orbit because of depleted propellant resources. The plan was to execute an orbit lowering maneuver on December 2, 2009. Because of minimal availability of propellant, the collision avoidance maneuver had to be kept as small as possible.


Satellite need fuel to stay in the same orbit, so when fuel starts to run out they deorbit them.
[snip] I've clearly stated in 2013 there was a filing to stop parasol from flying. Keep 2009 have no facts here.
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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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I don't want to beat a dead horse but we all can click and copy the fact is parasol was pulled in 2013 due to a filing meaning there was other means for its abrupt departure other than it ran out of fuel.

NASA talks about how they work in such uniform in order to get its information, what could parasol do to cause a instantaneous reaction for the other satellites to pick up if it's sending anything other than chemicals to cause the abrupt forming of clouds or whatever they choose to call it.


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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: Bunkrbuster
directory.eoportal.org...


And when we look at that link we find:


the mission design life is one year with two years as goal.


It went very well, going for 9 years instead of the designed 1-2 years!


due to insufficient ergols, the current planning calls for the satellite to be deorbited during the autumn of 2013


It was running out of fuel, so the took it out of service.


(fuel shortage for constellation maintenance


It was running low on fuel...


due to a fuel shortage to execute required maneuvers.


It was running out of fuel....


due to insufficient fuel supplies


It was running out of fuel...


depleted propellant resources.


It was running out of fuel...


Because of minimal availability of propellant


It did not have much fuel...

So no conspiracy, just normal satellite operation due to low fuel!



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Bunkrbuster


I've clearly stated in 2013 there was a filing to stop parasol from flying.

What is this filing you're talking about?



Keep 2009 have no facts here.

WTF?



posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Bunkrbuster


I've clearly stated in 2013 there was a filing to stop parasol from flying.

What is this filing you're talking about?



Keep 2009 have no facts here.

WTF?


Damn you want to criticize without looking at what I've posted.
edit on 10-12-2015 by Bunkrbuster because: (no reason given)


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posted on Dec, 10 2015 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: Bunkrbuster

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Bunkrbuster


I've clearly stated in 2013 there was a filing to stop parasol from flying.

What is this filing you're talking about?



Keep 2009 have no facts here.

WTF?


Damn you want to criticize without looking at what I've posted.

What I ''criticized'' was gibberish.

What filing? It's a simple question.


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