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reply posted on 6-1-2005 @ 10:13 PM by Xerrog
"Mechs" are generally considered as that.. extensions of human capabilities, though it basically is used just to refer to any immense weapons platform that has human qualities. (Legs/Tracks/Torso that moves independant, and Arms)

IF they ever became plausible to build the up side to them would be the massive amount of weapons they could carry. On something that large even our current em rail (sci-fi people read... Guass rifles) technology could be fitted.

Normal weight for Sci-Fi mechs are between 50-200 tons.

This is a MOVING object. Its top speed is under 5mph but it weighs in at over 13,500 TONS.

www.wcsscience.com...

While a walking mech weighing 100 tons may be hard to fathom (only because we can't build a reliable walking anything) A track based mech is possible. It would be slow but its armaments could be massive, Its armor could also be 10 times as thick as any current armor.

Once walking is figured out it could be a large mobility upgrade but it would have the inherint downside of overly exposed joints. I would bet on cover plating acting somewhat as old knights armor in which it overlaps when the join moves. In that case the weakest point would be when a joint was straight and the strongest when it was flexed.


reply posted on 7-1-2005 @ 08:32 PM by The Vagabond
You're describing a big, highly breakable tank.

Current tanks weight 50-70 tons. The soviets once designed but never produced one that weighed over 100 tons if I remember correctly. Tanks can move upwards of 60mph on road surfaces and at variable speeds far beyond what you have described for Mechs over rough terrain.

The design of a tank presents minimal target surface and minimal 90-degree surfaces which creates maximum resistance to impact, not to mention improving the armor-coverage to weight ratio.

Tanks can be equipped with any number of weapons in any number of schemes. Innovations past and projected include side gunports, flame throwers, anti-aircraft guns, multiple cannons, mortars, missiles, troop carrying compartments, blinding lasers for use on aircraft or on thermal targeting systems, explosive reactive armor and other counter measures, and more. The only thing mechs would do that a tank currently wont is preform complex arm movements which would be useful primarily in non-combat roles.

Tanks are becoming, and mechs already would be, nearly obsolete as aircraft, artillery, and infantry firepower and targeting abilities improve. A single man can carry a rocket system that will destroy any tank currently in service on this planet from over 1km away. Even less well equipped militaries such as North Korea and most Arab nations can equip their infantry with AT-4 and equivalent weapons, which in volley-firing can also disable any tank currently in service. Mechs would be even more vulnerable to this because of their low speed and vulnerable limbs.
Tank designs are going for lighter and faster platforms, so something as heavy and slow as a mech would almost certainly not be considered useful in modern or future warfare.
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