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Is ISIS a Black Op...Chemical Wapons...and Obama

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posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 01:47 PM
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It may be that ISIS is close to acquiring chemical weapons or has done so and may be trying to smuggle them into America

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is why you don’t play around and let them get settled in major modern cities in Iraq and Syria, like they have done in the ME, when they can have and get access to chemical weapons while Obama wants to take his time and fight them.

It just makes no sense to let that happen, UNLESS, you know for sure that ISIS won’t do that...

The only way to have that certain knowledge is if you run the operation secretly or have great influence over it.

Or you want another 911!

Either ISIS is a black op (and the US knows and controls it to a great degree) or they’re gambling with the death of thousands of people

…and that’s why Obama is doing nothing or Obama is the most incompetent leader of all time or Obama is psychologically impaired…

There no other explanations!

Why would you lie around and do nothing objectively when ISIS could get chemical weapons and kill thousands?

EXCEPT THIS:

The reason Obama doesn’t use this rational (THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS POSSIIBLITY) is that to him it sounds too much like the Bush lie he used to attack Iraq.

If that’s the case then Obama’s in a psychological dilemma in that he just has no clue what to do.

But the difference is that we know for sure that ISIS will try to attack with anything they could get…they have done it and threatened it

Now ISIS has slaughtered Americans and he still doesn’t know what to do!

Obama is paralyzed

There’s no doubt that the above is true that either ISIS is a black operation that Obama and the government know wont EVER use chemical weapons or Obama is absolutely paralyzed psychologically

….Or worst, they want another 911

Which is it--take your pick

Paralyzed?


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posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 01:50 PM
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Tweeting their threats from TX deserts staged as from out in the mideast certainly doesn't help the 'Islamic State' part of ISIS:




posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: mandelaeffect

Sold to ISIS through a CIA cutout probably

Or IS That George Bush' uncle ?


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posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: mandelaeffect

The truck was his. It wasnt filmed in texas however. Quite the leap youre taking
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posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: Willtell




It may be that ISIS is close to acquiring chemical weapons or has done so and may be trying to smuggle them into America

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Problem is the source for that article is known to provide BS stories which that one is.



Either ISIS is a black op (and the US knows and controls it to a great degree) or they’re gambling with the death of thousands of people



ISIS is neither a black op nor is it being run by the US...but speculating without actual fact is fun.



There’s no doubt that the above is true that either ISIS is a black operation that Obama and the government know wont EVER use chemical weapons or Obama is absolutely paralyzed psychologically


Yes there is doubt.

Obama doesn't go as hard as Russia against ISIS because he is trying to keep civilian deaths at a bare minimum, but would like it to be none...which is almost impossible in a war zone like Syria, and Iraq.

He is trying to keep what's left of whatever legacy he has as the president by going PC in a war that nobody else involved is doing.

But it doesn't matter whichever way he goes people will have a problem with his decision. If he killed civilians fighting ISIS people would and have cried about it happening, but because he isn't doing that people complain he isn't doing enough...it's amazing he is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.

And I say that not being a fan of Obama or his foreign policies.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: mandelaeffect




Tweeting their threats from TX deserts staged as from out in the mideast certainly doesn't help the 'Islamic State' part of ISIS:


And yet they are really in the middle east.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:21 PM
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Aa reply to: tsurfer2000h


A little sanity... Thank you



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: mandelaeffect




Tweeting their threats from TX deserts staged as from out in the mideast certainly doesn't help the 'Islamic State' part of ISIS:


And yet they are really in the middle east.



Yea, Assad isn't dead yet

Is he?



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Obama wanting no civilian deaths is a smokescreen


There have been multiple civilian deaths in drone attacks so your premise is faulty


Obama is using that as an excuse



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: mandelaeffect




Yea, Assad isn't dead yet

Is he?


Nope, and it wouldn't change the fact of where ISIS is located and tweeting their BS from.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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Obama wanting no civilian deaths is a smokescreen


Ah yes the smokescreen defense...care to back that claim with something?



There have been multiple civilian deaths in drone attacks so your premise is faulty


Maybe you should re read what I said. There is no way to keep civilian deaths in a war zone at none, but you do what you can to prevent them as much as you can...which is what he is doing whether you agree with it or not it's the truth.

Do you really think if the US wasn't trying to keep civilian deaths to a minimum that we couldn't lay waste to ISIS wherever they are hiding?

But the fact they are hiding among the civilian population the US has made the choice of not bombing them while hiding there shows we are trying to keep civilian deaths down.



Obama is using that as an excuse



No your trying to make it his excuse...killing civilians is not what the US went to Syria, and Iraq to do. As for the drone strikes they aren't targeting innocent civilians, but are targeting viable military targets.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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ISIS would be had pressed to use any chemical weapons they found beyond the area in which they found them. Transporting and maintaining them is beyond their abilities to even say, Europe. The US is completely out of reach. ISIS has not international network like AlQuida once did. Which is why they have to recruit and radicalize locals in other countries. It is not like ISIS has people it can send out, they just are not built that way.

ISIS has lost 35% of its territory in Iraq and %10 in Syria since the air campaign began. The war is being fought with the future in mind. Local forces backed by US air power means no long term US occupations forces, confidence in local and the entire thing not collapsing and new ISIS forming the second western forces leave.

And ISIS has to be removed town by town building by building. That is a long process and requires the good will of locals who are far more likely to trust their own people. Sending in US forces would be short sighted and simply be setting up the next war in a few years. Even the US learns from its mistakes on occasion.

As the Russian have found out that bombing does not do much unless the local forces are trained, supplied and ready to move. Advances have been small and slow and often only maintained by retreating other places with Russia air support because what is on the ground is simply not up to the job. Which is why you have Russia looking for a way out.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

While it is known among the intelligence services of your EU-"allies" that the US hold their hands above certain radical-islamist groups in Syria and Iraq (and worse: above their well-known sponsors), the so-called Islamic State itself is way to vast by now to be a Black OP orchestrated by the US.

I agree that your POTUS has no problem gambling with the death of thousands of people. I think he has proven that.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: ColCurious




I agree that your POTUS has no problem gambling with the death of thousands of people. I think he has proven that.


Depending on your country I will bet yours doesn't either.




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