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San Bernardino shooter's alleged Isis link: Obama's worst political nightmare

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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: Kuroodo
The 'Gang; has to be of one as dogmatic faith driven: Catholic or Jehovah Witness, Baptist, Seventh Day Adventists, Christian Scientists, Methodists, Episcopalian, Lutherans etc...




posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog


He's deliberately downplaying the threat.

He conflates it and tries to change the subject, tries to divert our attention from it...

It's no other possibilities other than this is deliberate or Obama’s all of a sudden has gotten dumb

He doesn’t really believe in his excuses.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:51 PM
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Oh man wtf,another it's Obama's fault/bash thread?,get a grip Man...Obama obsession syndrome.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:59 PM
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Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals. No matter what kind of facts, logic, and reason fly in the face of their ideology, they will be willfully blind.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:03 PM
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He's deliberately downplaying the threat.

You Know who I found was down playing a threat? It was Condi Rice/Bush,not acknowledging the daily briefing memo givin to them in August of 2001 while He was on his stupid ranch..



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:04 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

He's what he's always been. Its just that this time, he's finally painted himself into a corner politically, with bad/unpopular policies compounding upon each other, magnified by his own tendency to rush to judgement and his typical unwillingness to consider that his opponents...horrors...might actually be right.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: greydaze
Oh man wtf,another it's Obama's fault/bash thread?,get a grip Man...Obama obsession syndrome.


I read a piece last year about this very issue. They called it "compulsive Obama hatred disorder" or "Obama Derangement Syndrome".

When you couple that with studies, such as the University of Nebraska study that found more "conservative" people tend to be more easily frightened, paranoid and negative in nature, it is no wonder that any discussion they have about damn near any topic will, by default, become negative and attack those they feel are some sort of threat to their myopic thinking.

This is why we have threads like this, and countless more, in which the actual topic is a small side-note to the overwhelming fact that they have to express hatred and fear for whomever their target is.
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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:10 PM
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Where is the link to isis? ATS has turned into far right proaganda tool.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: introvert
I hear you Man,heh,it's like a pack mentality..What's being strong is not to engage with the"back n forth" with the Rwingers..Say your piece,and let them chew on it.Anyway I made my point above...

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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Where is the link to isis? ATS has turned into far right proaganda tool.


Not really, unless the beardy muslim looking man with an Isalmic name and his Islamic outfit wearing Muslim wife are somehow not Muslims. Regardless of their associations with terrorist groups its not ATS convincing me there is something slightly more untrustworthy about people who rate their god higher than an actual human life.

No propaganda, just facts and nothing far right about it, dont label me or anyone who slightly uncomfortable about Muslims, right wing.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals. No matter what kind of facts, logic, and reason fly in the face of their ideology, they will be willfully blind.

This ideology is easily understood. Liberal/socialists want EVERYTHING TO BE FREE for the taking for everyone; (yet have no idea how to pay for it).



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
I CALL ON OBAMA TO HERE AND NOW RESIGN AS PRESIDENT!


This might make CNN folks


WillTell of ATS News calls on Obama to resign!




Oh no! You want Shotgun Joe as your president? Now wouldn't that be a hoot? I can see it now, him handing off power willingly to the VP....

Thanks for the chuckle.

ETA: Back to the topic---yes, I think this is possibly the "Big Fail" that will follow him through history.
The lack of security of the WH has been demonstrated frequently, and I'm not at all sure that those were staged incidents as some people have suggested. Just a few days ago I saw a story that reported that airport security failed to find 3 of 4 weapons in carry-on luggage during an inspection.
So, yeah, he's in need of a good long pull on that crack pipe about now I suspect.
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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:17 PM
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Well, let’s see. If I was President, and there was a mass shooting event, and at first the reason behind it was unknown/undetermined by investigating authorities, what message would I choose to impart to the general public? Hmmm... I got it!

ATTENTION! ATTENTION! WE ARE UNDER ATTACK BY RADICAL ISLAMIST TERRORISTS! REFRAIN FROM ALL NORMAL HOLIDAY ACTIVITIES AND SEEK SHELTER IMMEDIATELY. TAKE UP ARMS AND BE PREPARED TO FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE!!

Oh wait, no. That wasn’t appropriate. Maybe I should stress the following:

ATTENTION ALL PATRIOTIC AMERICANS! MUSLIMS HAVE DECLARED HOLY WAR ON AMERICA! BEWARE OF ANYONE APPEARING TO BE OF MIDDLE EASTERN DESCENT. YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO USE LETHAL FORCE AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION!

Naa... Too crazy and extreme. I’m not Donald Trump. Perhaps it would be best not to incite violence and mayhem in the streets. I’ll just try to instill calm and urge rational behavior by all. Otherwise, the terrorists have succeeded. It’s the civilized thing to do.

I swear to God, whatever happens around the world, if it’s bad then it’s Obama’s fault. Please people, give it a rest. This ATS lynchmob mentality has gotten ugly and absurd. If you’re looking for signs of certifiable mental disorder in high places, try Congress. It’s runs rampant there...

PS: ISIS terrorist cells is not only Obama’s worst nightmare, it’s all of our worst nightmare.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
yeah, really bad timing for Obama, I reckon he is going to have a rough road ahead trying to get those other 100,000 terrorist, oops I mean "refugees" into the country next year.


I got bad news for you. It's already green-lighted in the spending omnibus bill to be voted on shortly. Dems and traitorous republicans made sure that all the immigration ideas Obama pushed for will be funded. How do you like that? What's the point of an opposition party if they simply roll over and do as they are told?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:51 PM
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originally posted by: SevenThunders

originally posted by: Tardacus
yeah, really bad timing for Obama, I reckon he is going to have a rough road ahead trying to get those other 100,000 terrorist, oops I mean "refugees" into the country next year.


I got bad news for you. It's already green-lighted in the spending omnibus bill to be voted on shortly. Dems and traitorous republicans made sure that all the immigration ideas Obama pushed for will be funded. How do you like that? What's the point of an opposition party if they simply roll over and do as they are told?


Immigration policy does not necessarily apply to refugee policies.

Do the immigration "ideas" being pushed contain specific language relating to refugee status requirements, etc?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:54 PM
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originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Where is the link to isis? ATS has turned into far right proaganda tool.


Not really, unless the beardy muslim looking man with an Isalmic name and his Islamic outfit wearing Muslim wife are somehow not Muslims. Regardless of their associations with terrorist groups its not ATS convincing me there is something slightly more untrustworthy about people who rate their god higher than an actual human life.

No propaganda, just facts and nothing far right about it, dont label me or anyone who slightly uncomfortable about Muslims, right wing.


Again. Where is the link to Isis ? Wishful thinking is hardly considered a fact.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: SevenThunders

originally posted by: Tardacus
yeah, really bad timing for Obama, I reckon he is going to have a rough road ahead trying to get those other 100,000 terrorist, oops I mean "refugees" into the country next year.


I got bad news for you. It's already green-lighted in the spending omnibus bill to be voted on shortly. Dems and traitorous republicans made sure that all the immigration ideas Obama pushed for will be funded. How do you like that? What's the point of an opposition party if they simply roll over and do as they are told?


Immigration policy does not necessarily apply to refugee policies.

Do the immigration "ideas" being pushed contain specific language relating to refugee status requirements, etc?


Good question. Sessions says the new bill will allow all the Syrian immigrants and more to come in.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...

Of course no one reads the details, which probably is part of the plan.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Honest question, why is it that every time that something happens since obama has been the president, its always the worst ever?


Everything Obama does is like a fresh new and powerful insult to the American ways of life, and that's why people see each new thing as the worst thing. Because it's fresh and in our faces. The insults of yesterday fade just enough for the new insults he offers to feel like the worst thing he has done so far.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 03:04 AM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

dukofjive: Honest question, why is it that every time that something happens since obama has been the president, its always the worst ever?

A platitude not to be remembered in the analogue of this history.

dukeofjive96969: Everything Obama does is like a fresh new and powerful insult to the American ways of life, and that's why people see each new thing as the worst thing. Because it's fresh and in our faces. The insults of yesterday fade just enough for the new insults he offers to feel like the worst thing he has done so far.

His diatribe has been one never seen/thought/imagined or fought for by the original forefathers FOUNDERS of this GREAT county created ; now a strange POTUS abolitionist (only for potential terrorists) with no concrete agenda as to vetting these potential threats coming into this country?
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posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 07:32 AM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Again. Where is the link to Isis ? Wishful thinking is hardly considered a fact.


There was no direct link in the sense that they ordered or provided material support for this attack, however, the FBI is saying that the perpetrators may have been inspired by ISIS propaganda and that the woman, at least, pledged support to them.



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