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‘Incursion’: Baghdad demands Turkey withdraw ‘training’ troops from northern Iraq

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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 05:51 PM
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‘Incursion’: Baghdad demands Turkey withdraw ‘training’ troops from northern Iraq


The foreign ministry called Turkey’s move “an incursion,” stressing that the military operation had not been coordinated with the Iraqi government.


Well, stuff keeps getting messier and messier. I think "TPTB" are really hell bent on a world war.
Thanks to Plutonas for the heads up.
edit on 4-12-2015 by benwyatt because: Added additional content and thanks to Plutonas




posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 05:55 PM
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According to a Reuters source, the US-led anti-Islamic State coalition was aware of the Turkey's move.

I'll bet. US probably flew them in there.

Well they didn't hitch a ride through Syria with Isis, did they?

Did they?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr


According to a Reuters source, the US-led anti-Islamic State coalition was aware of the Turkey's move.

I'll bet. US probably flew them in there.

Well they didn't hitch a ride through Syria with Isis, did they?

Did they?


Another of those coincidences.. Didnt Iraq just talk with way that they are moving towards Russian coalition, rather than USA/NATO?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: romilo

That last transmission was garbled.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

I'm a little confused by this. (What else is new...)

I'm thinking Baghdad is no fan of the Kurds...of either kind. The Turks also. Some of the Turk activity, at least has been, against the Kurds. Wouldn't they have a mutual interest in that regard??



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

We'd never hear of turks training xyz forces in Iraq if they hadn't complained. Like, how many training camps we think are around Syria in all the allied or US controlled territories and borders there… bouts…? Don't use "coalition", its disinformation.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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Personally i thought from this topic that for while now Iraqis have start it to talk with Russia and their allies for coalition against terrorists and also had talked down USA/NATO about the fight against terrorism, i think i even read about they accused or inclined at least how USA/NATO are behind all of it. Now this and it seems like it is USA/NATOs respond to Russia, if they try to include Iraq in their coalition, they might attack Iraq again.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:04 PM
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I don`t know why all these nato countries all of a sudden feel that Iraq and Syria no longer have national sovereignty and that nato countries can just roll in there,at will, and start killing s**t.
Iraq and Syria should tell all these intruding countries to "get the F**k out,we and our Russian comrades will take care of this"
The thing that opened my eyes was when England voted to allow their military to bomb S**t in Syria and then just hours later they were bombing.erm, excuse me! did Syria or Iraq get a vote on whether they wanted you violating their airspace and bombing in their countries?
Would any of these nato countries allow other countries to fly,univited, into their airspace and start bombing s**t?
of course they wouldn`t so why do they feel that they have the right to do it to other countries?
If this turns into a major war,nato is to blame.

Syria and Iraq have a new sugar daddy by the name of Russia, Nato has been kicked to the curb.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr


According to a Reuters source, the US-led anti-Islamic State coalition was aware of the Turkey's move.

I'll bet. US probably flew them in there.

Well they didn't hitch a ride through Syria with Isis, did they?

Did they?


Really ... do you even realize, WHERE they claim to have their training group?

In a 100% ISIS controlled territory ... so, whom are they training there? ISIS ... because there sure as hell aren't any Iraqi soldiers there ... as the Iraqi government has stated.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:28 PM
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sorry ... double post
edit on 4/12/2015 by bjarneorn because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:53 PM
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Its another very bold move Erdogan did, Russia destroys oil refinements in Syria, oil trucks and convoys, so turks send personnel to train kurds in ISIS controlled area, inside IRAQ? well...


I wonder what NATO have to say about it, that turkey has the right to invade other countries to protect themselves?


Allow me to remind you this interview few days ago : Look at 00.58 seconds



ps: For the records, many videos of that interview have been removed, maybe for copyrights, maybe for the excessive use and views.
edit on 4-12-2015 by Ploutonas because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Its a war on terror for humanitarian reasons to help democratize them. Haven't you been brainwashed lately?

OICURAWARE, good for you.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:26 PM
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Really … do you even realize, WHERE they claim to have their training group?

Near the oil?

Lol, you must not be familiar with my posting history on ATS. I



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:34 PM
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Hahah, NATO chief respects airspace of all countries… suuure. NATO jets operating from Turkish airstrips cross over and bomb Syria all the time.

Nono wait, they bomb the (I)maginary (S)tate in Syria… mind meld… the bombs aren't falling in Syria.

Pounding Syria



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 04:25 AM
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originally posted by: Ploutonas

Allow me to remind you this interview few days ago : Look at 00.58 seconds



Herr Stolzenberg, call the guy for what he is ...

I wonder, if these European nations have gone rogue inside NATO ... or weather the US is leading the Nazi coalition. Herr Stolzenberg here admits they are behind Turkey's acts, Russia has shown ties between turkey and ISIS ... and Turkey coming to Iraq for the oil ... and to borrow Abrams and Humvees from ISIS? is proof of their ISIS ties ...

Turkey training Kurds ... yeah right, Russia just domped tons of ammunition to YPK. Finally the Kurds will get their Kurdistan ...



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 05:26 AM
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It will be interesting to see what happens when Russia accidentally bombs Turkish troops.
May it will be a real accident or maybe not so much of one.
Whats weird is some news reports are saying they are there to train "Iraq" forces

www.theguardian.com...

"A senior Kurdish military officer based on the Bashiqa front line, north of Mosul, said additional Turkish trainers had arrived at a camp in the area overnight on Thursday escorted by a Turkish protection force. He said he was not aware of the size of the force and refused to speculate.

The camp is used by a force called Hashid Watani, which is made up of mainly Sunni Arab former Iraqi police and volunteers from Mosul. It was formed by former governor Atheel al-Nujaifi, who is close to Turkey. A small number of Turkish trainers were already there before this latest deployment.

So the Turks are bringing tanks with them to train people who don't have tanks......errr right.
And if they actually drive Isis out of Mosul will they turn around and go home?
Or will they conveniently stay around to help pump get the oil pumps working again?



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 05:40 AM
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For the records, many videos of that interview have been removed, maybe for copyrights, maybe for the excessive use and views.




I think it is all out of their control to stop now. With WW3 on the horizon, i would say it isn't the copyright.






Its another very bold move Erdogan did,


I kind of think he has lost his mind. This CAN'T end well for him........



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 05:46 AM
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Russia just domped tons of ammunition to YPK. Finally the Kurds will get their Kurdistan ...


Please tell me that will happen again.

These kurds are some bad mf's who will get their sh*t together and make their neighbors behave.





posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 06:12 AM
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Mosul was Ottoman/"Turkish" land 1535-1918..... They will not be leaving!



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 07:55 AM
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The Turks are training Sunni militias and former Iraqi security forces from Mosul for the retaking of Mosul. They have been doing it for sometime. The Iraqis have forces mostly made of Shia militias set to retake the city but, keep getting delayed. With Mosul being mostly Sunni, the Iraqi's do not want Mosul having its own Sunni armed force once ISIS is driven out even if it means delaying liberating the city. The Turks are also likely training the local Kurds from the city. (I know, this gets confusing because the Turks are also bombing some Kurds, well most of the Kurds in Iraq are long time allies of the Turks and rivals to the anti Turkish Kurds, this is a rare time when the Kurdish groups have stopped fighting each other.) So of course Baghdad does not like idea of Kurds or Sunnis taking anymore control away from the Shia. People sometimes forget that things in Iraq are almost as complex as Syria when it comes to who is on what side. Of course Turkey has been operating is this part of Iraq since the days of Saddam who used to look the other way simply because he had no love Kurds of any kind (accept the ones in Iran which he supported).




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