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San Bernardino Atrocity, an Attempt by Radical Islamists to Push for Gun Control?

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




I have seen a lot of people ask why would these Islamic extremists attack a place that caters to the needs of disabled children?



Well, they did not attack the disabled children center, they attacked a room for hire that the center leases out to the public. That does not change some of the logic of the OP or posts on it, however it is not the same as if they attacked the administration, personnel or patients there.


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Spider879

Look at the Americans that the Obama administration is claiming are "rightwing extremists and possible terrorists"... It's not just Republicans, but anyone who would agree with the second amendment, or who would disagree with any policy made by Obama...

Criminals don't get armed because of America's second amendment...they get armed because they are criminals and they don't follow laws...

If disarming all people in a nation would stop mass shootings, and mass murders, you wouldn't have the Paris attack, the recent mass shooting in Australia, the fact that after the ban in Britain crimes with guns increased for years despite guns being banned, etc, etc...

Criminals do not follow laws. Laws that aim to disarm citizens will not disarm criminals...they disarmed law abidding citizens...


No it's not political opponents that Dems and others want to stop, it is nutjobs like the dude that shot-up that Family planning Center a few days ago, like that kid from Chicago that want to shoot 16 of his fellow white students ,because he was pissed at the police killing of that kid in Chicago, it is for that that kid that went out and shot up an AA congregation because he is a racist nut with mental issues, it is for that nut that killed couple of his fellow reporters because of his mental issue connected to his racial demons, and yes it is for those like Adan Ganan of Al Qaeda who want to exploit the those loopholes, yet you and other NRA apologist would rather have spend time dancing in circles while the next shooter plot is being cooked right this min.
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:20 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

wow... So apparently the weapons were bought on behalf of the police and somehow ended up in the hands of Syed...

wow... Thanks for that link.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:23 PM
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buy backs don't work except to get junk guns off the street.

You want to get assault weapons off the street you need a gun trade program.

I own a AR 15.
the Koreans tried to return a very large number of M1 Garands to the US government.
www.thetruthaboutguns.com...
For a mass shooter the M1 Garand would be a lousy weapon because of the 8 round spring clip

Why not get the government to trade these OLD but good for hunting and target shooting and are collector WW2 M1 Garands using the Civilian Marksmanship program to do a straight across trade in for AR rifles.
throw in 50 8 round spring clips and other doodads and because the collector value of the M1s they would take a equal number of Assault rifles off the street.

I would trade my AR in for a good reconditioned M1 navy Garand in .308



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Spider879

The problem with the bill was that it was too open and would have given the government the right to tell who can and not own guns, no only what they deem as suspected terrorist.

Don't let the wording deceive you, its more to the bill that is been propagandized.


If what you say is true, then why not fix it instead of scuttling it, but I don't believe them , and the NRA could give two bits about that the NRA is basically a gun manufacture lobby, the more guns out there the better, the more scared folks feel the better the sales, I don't want all that guns on the streets, it is devastating to lower and working class communities.


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:33 PM
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Looking at the obvious, Obama wants us dead.
Extreme islam kills a bunch of people.
And Obama talks about taking away our guns?

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

Trust me I posted the very well link of the NRA and the gun manufactures and sellers in America they are all sleeping in the same bed of profiteering a while back.




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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Spider879

Trust me I posted the very well link of the NRA and the gun manufactures and sellers in America they are all sleeping in the same bet of profiteering a while back.


Respects to that, but we still have a problem of what do we do, obviously we can't pretend we don't have a problem and obviously we have to make a multi faceted approach to the problem, but every-time someone made an attempt we have folks wailing and weeping and gnashing of teeth that nothing should be done.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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duplicate delete.

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Very great posts and information. I have felt the same exact way about what is actually happening. It should alert every American to the manipulation and criminal activity being used by the globalist and their lackeys to bring America down. The reality of the internet and the ability of people to look into these things is why they want censorship so much like is happening in France right now with the shutting down of the alternative news sites that don't support their agenda.

Americans need to realize that they are being manipulated by a complicit media and elite that want to bring everyone down to 2nd and 3rd world standards and are having a difficult time with people who are well armed and aware of this agenda. We have millions of vets, law enforcement, etc, that are not agreeing with the program either. It make me believe they will, if not already trying, spark off a serious civil war or revolution in the US. They know this will be devastating and the outcome unsure. Hence, they strive to create a way to get Americans disarmed. I suspect the reality of so many states passing laws to allow open or concealed carry, self-defense enhancements like stand your ground, etc. I also suspect this reality is not what their plan was. If the states politicians are doing this, it begs the question what do they know?

We are at war and WWIII is under way. It takes time to spread and get deeper, but nonetheless will play itself out. I expect as there is a rise in crime when the economy is down, when the global economic collapse which is also underway reaches it depths war and civil war will grow with the despair.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

I am reading your stuff, it is all over the place, you are a cut and paste guru. Not much of your own comments, just talking points and such. Sets somebody like me, who actually reads stuff on edge. Dude if this is your true personality, you need to seek help, or we are going to be reading about you on the web.


wow...wow... first you try to play the race card, claiming that my arguments are all over the place when I am showing evidence for what i write... Now you are claiming that I must seek help... Just another red herring on your part. get the hell out of here and come back only when you have an intelligent argument to present...

BTW... the cut and paste i do from my other posts is because i can only type with one hand... So what, you are now going to try to use my disability as another red herring to spout nothing but rhetoric?...


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Personally, I think it's the other way around. We have a system using terrorism as a convenient way to eventually disarm it's citizens. And I believe they will accomplish it at some point. But it will cost them, and us unfortunately. I've always figured when the time was right, Americans would give up their guns with a whimper, instead of a fight. And I still believe most will. But there's a small percentage of the population who aren't going to lay down so easily.



I believe they will too eventually, through making them feel guilty

Just like the neighbor who was afraid to call in suspicious activity at that residence, for fear of being labeled a racist for profiling...sigh

Sure soon enough, you will have the MSM media along with politicians making the case that guns are harmful
Plus everyone else on social media and the likes condemning gun owners as tho they are the criminals

Maybe not this year or even next year, but in time, would not be surprised to see some people give up their guns out of "guilt"

Not a bad tactic actually, truth be told
People are sheeples when you get down to it and want to be "accepted'', not labeled

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




I have seen a lot of people ask why would these Islamic extremists attack a place that caters to the needs of disabled children?


Cause terrorists like people that can't shoot back.

And when they do mess with the bull they get the horn.

Case in point the SB shooters are no more.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:43 PM
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Dailymail has a photo of the guns and they do no not have the CA required bullet button installed. That makes them illegal guns in CA.

The photo does not show AR magazines but anything over 10 capacity is also illegal in CA.



www.dailymail.co.uk... ay-party-slaughtered-14-leaving-baby-mother.html



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:47 PM
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I have seen a lot of people ask why would these Islamic extremists attack a place that caters to the needs of disabled children?



Places like these are called "soft targets"
Meaning they do not allow weapons of any kind indoors


Which is why many speak out against places like movie theaters or Military recruiting offices for posting signs saying "Gun Free Zone"

That is like putting a bulls-eye on your back for people wanting to do harm without worry of people shooting back
It's like saying, come on do as you please, no one here is armed (sigh)



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:51 PM
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Who is saying they got their guns from the CIA?


The attackers had purchased their two handguns, but their two assault-style rifles were purchased by someone who is now under investigation, Burguan told reporters.

75-80 people were present at Calif shooting: Official


They personally bought their 2 handguns
And a 'friend' bought the assault rifles, which they are looking into...purchased legally



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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Your link also has this tidbit that I've not heard before.



Malik had reportedly bought tow of the weapons used in the shooting rampage at Annie's Get Your Gun (pictured), a firearms store in the city of Corona.


Who bought the others is the question of the day.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 10:40 PM
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There is also another photo showing 30 round magazines in the street but they could be police officers.

If the 30 round magazines were used in the terrorist's guns then they were illegal firearms.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:55 PM
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Though the building houses the dept for disabled children the floor was rented out to the county for the Christmas party



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Replace " Radical extremists " With " Radical Progressive Liberal Socialists " and then your Post here just Might make More Sense............



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