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Did Syed Rizwan Farook Jump the Gun?

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:01 AM
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I have been on the phone with relatives who live only miles away from the murder site.

One thing stands out. Not everything fits into a neat little scenario.

Syed had an argument at the SB County Christmas party with someone and left very upset. This was verified by multiple witnesses. Went home got into prepared gear and arms, then went back along with his wife and shot up the place, and in so doing kills only 14 and wounds 17.

Whiles he had trained an was prepared for some event I don't think this was it. I believe there is a larger force of American Muslim's who are prepared for a Jihad but are waiting for the right moment. They are being trained here in different locations throughout the States From Montana to Texas from Oregon to Virginia, they are being trained not as sleeper cells but as an occupying Army to control the people when the big event happens. CAIR knows something also jumped into the spotlight in order to protect the larger plan Syed exposed.

Everyone would like to think this was an isolated jihad incident but I believe Syed Rizwan Farook jumped the gun and revealed to us the occupiers are already among us. They have their legal Militia protected by the US Constitution while the rest of us are denied our rights to bear arms. Their arms are not in any one location but each member is trained and has their own weapons and ammo and will unite to destroy and conquer when the true event takes places.
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

You may be right but it all sounds like speculation to me - so far(as far as I know) they haven't confirmed that this was a "jihadi" attack.

There were rumors that the argument at the Christmas party was about the building of a Mosque that got turned down, but I've yet to see a verifiable source for that claim.

Until we know for CERTAIN that it was religious extremists, I think it's unnecessary worry to begin painting possible future scenarios


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

This is a very bold and interesting theory.

Basically this guy was planning to do a terrorist attack in the future, but was so unbalanced that he allowed himself to overreact to an argument at a Christmas party and forgot about his actual terrorist mission.

You are right that people usually don't just have that kind of gear sitting in their home waiting for someone to argue with them. It is a plausible theory.


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Even If all of the 3% of Muslims in the USA were sleeper cells they wouldn't have a chance.
Also who has denied you of any rights to bear arms? and who has given them a legal Militia?....OMG you are right it adds up to OBAMA!!.
Cool story though.

I think some idiot fundy islamists are attempting to create a massive religious war and some are falling for it.

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn


Hi Muslim here .

Who's leading this secret "Muslim" army?

Let me know so I can give my life protecting my fellow Americans from this evil plot.

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: Kapusta

It's Obama!.
Do you think we have the same problem in the UK heck I have Muslim neighbors Is Mo and Natasha going to kill me?.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: ChesterJohn

This is a very bold and interesting theory.

Basically this guy was planning to do a terrorist attack in the future, but was so unbalanced that he allowed himself to overreact to an argument at a Christmas party and forgot about his actual terrorist mission.

You are right that people usually don't just have that kind of gear sitting in their home waiting for someone to argue with them. It is a plausible theory.


If this guy was a "devout" Muslim.. So Devout that he was going to give his life for some sick twisted cause . I am wondering why he was at a Christmas party ? Muslims don't celebrate Christmas because they beleive it an act of Shirk ( a worship of something besides Allah) this is a Major Major no no in Islam . the understanding of Shirk is that it's a HUGE sin. Kind of strange for this "Devout Muslim" to be acting in Shirk when he is getting ready to wage Jihad for what ever sick reason eh ?

Makes no sens to me....



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Kapusta

It's Obama!.
Do you think we have the same problem in the UK heck I have Muslim neighbors Is Mo and Natasha going to kill me?.


Why you ask me ? Ask Mo and Natasha .... Willing to bet they won't
your own government might though....

Just saying.
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: ChesterJohn

This is a very bold and interesting theory.

Basically this guy was planning to do a terrorist attack in the future, but was so unbalanced that he allowed himself to overreact to an argument at a Christmas party and forgot about his actual terrorist mission.

You are right that people usually don't just have that kind of gear sitting in their home waiting for someone to argue with them. It is a plausible theory.


I agree he was planning something, just not sure what. The OP's speculation sounds a bit far fetched, but could see coordinated terrorist attacks through sleeper cells of radicalized muslims.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: Kapusta

Tongue in cheek dude
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It's just that so many on ATS are falling for it.
Mo would knock any persons head off if he messed with anything to do with Yorkshire and Yorkshire cricket including ISIS.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: boymonkey74

boy, without revealing myself and my location I will say that it has gotten a lot harder to buy guns in the State where I live. 24 hours for shotguns and Rifles after a local check, and up to five weeks for handguns.

I am still waiting on my handgun purchase. and because of that wait they found that my personal info was taken from the Gov earlier this year during the cyber-hack on the US Office of Personnel Management. So now more checks are being placed on my purchase.


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: Kapusta

Are Muslims encouraged to lie, cheat, steal ect from infidels? So they would go to a Christmas party to maintain status quo?



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: boymonkey74

boy, without revealing myself and my location I will say that it has gotten a lot harder to buy guns in the State where I live. 24 hours for shotguns and Rifles after a local check, and up to five weeks for handguns.

I am still waiting on my handgun purchase. and because of that wait they found that my personal info was taken from the Gov earlier this year during the cyber-hack on the US Office of Personnel Management. So now more checks are being placed on my purchase.


oh shiiiii
24 hours really? (and "up to" but likely far less than five weeks for handgun)
thats insane!
i want to shoot stuff NOW!!!!

doin backround checks to make sure im not sum kinda terrist or buying and reselling firearms on the black market
thats just downright unreasonable
dera comin fer r guns dammit
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Makes lots of sense. But unfortunately, we know they are already among us, we just don't know how many there are.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Exactly! And they want to let in a bunch more from the Middle East.

Just on the another thread a few days ago as I was shouting about the one world Caliphate all Muslims want and are taught about. One of the posters said there were no AMERICAN MUSLIM that would ever do what happened in SB Calif. I grew up there and it is sad the state of that city is very bad, remember a few years back they had to file bankruptcy.
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: ChesterJohn


Hi Muslim here .

Who's leading this secret "Muslim" army?

Let me know so I can give my life protecting my fellow Americans from this evil plot.

....





If you go to a mosque and you hear of any recruitment going on, let someone know. Then you will be doing your part to help your fellow Americans in this time of need.

This is not a sarcastic post, it's real. And I think we need a lot more than just you on this train of thought.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
]originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: ChesterJohn


Hi Muslim here .

Who's leading this secret "Muslim" army?

Let me know so I can give my life protecting my fellow Americans from this evil plot.

....

If you go to a mosque and you hear of any recruitment going on, let someone know. Then you will be doing your part to help your fellow Americans in this time of need.

This is not a sarcastic post, it's real. And I think we need a lot more than just you on this train of thought.


Better yet if any of your fellow Muslims invite you to a secret meeting at Said Farook Ashamed Mohamed's house and they start with this radical stuff contact the FBI and become an informant so they can get to the root person and the money that is needed and not just one guy bent on Jihad.
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:55 AM
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Maybe




San Bernardino gunman Syed Farook met his Pakistani wife-turned-accomplice Tashfeen Malik while on the hajj in Saudi Arabia and appeared to have been radicalized, law enforcement officials revealed this afternoon.
investigators told CNN that Farook, a native US citizen of South Asian descent, was in touch by phone and via social media with more than one international terrorism subject.
Federal officials told NBC News that Farook made a trip to Saudi Arabia within the past two year, most likely for the hajj – the religious pilgrimage to the sacred city of Mecca that all devout Muslims are required to go on at least once in their lives.
It is believed that during his stay abroad, he met Malik, got engaged and later brought her over the US on a K-1 fiancee visa.


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: network dude

Exactly! And they want to let in a bunch more from the Middle East.

Just on the another thread a few days ago as I was shouting about the one world Caliphate all Muslims want and are taught about. One of the posters said there were no AMERICAN MUSLIM that would ever do what happened in SB Calif. I grew up there and it is sad the state of that city is very bad, remember a few years back they had to file bankruptcy.

So just because they are from the middle east they are going to automatically come to America and start killing people? Whites ans blacks here in America murder far more than Middle Easterners could dream of killing so how do we fix this problem? So the Muslims want to take over the world somebody needs to tell the Christians they have competition.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: buster2010

true Christians know they wont have to kill to take over the world, they know that when Jesus comes with the sword of his mouth he does that ALL ON HIS OWN, unlike Allah who has to have pansy Jihadist do his dirty work.




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