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Obama On San Bernardino Shooting: 'We Have A Pattern Now Of Mass Shootings'

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 05:37 AM
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With all these type of shootings or attacks and then Obamas obvious words toward guns that follow or during these atrocities as this one seem to have the opposite affect to what he is calling for.

Obama urges gun control after Colorado Springs shooting: 'Enough is enough'

I don`t think they are false flags events to remove your guns nor do I think they believe they could disarm the country if they even tried ( 270-310 million guns, let alone unregistered fire arms ), but they know the population in fear of losing theirs and those wanting protection with all the massacres that take place, make gun sales increase not decrease.



Americans are having a happy, pro-gun holiday season. The FBI said this week it had processed a record number of firearms background checks on Black Friday, indicating more Americans were purchasing guns for the holiday shopping season.

The FBI processed 185,345 background checks — roughly two per second — as Americans took to local malls to buy their loved ones Christmas gifts.

By some estimates, 79 million U.S. households have guns. Other surveys have found there are between 270 and 310 million guns
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Happy Birthday Jesus?

If the Gov wanted all the citizens to be unarmed eventually, couldn't they put a ban on the sale of bullets?, unless people have large supplies or have the means to make their own (supply of gunpowder, press and lathe I guess ), a gun without bullets is a club.

Weapons manufacturing and sales are the only winners in all of this. ( Hegelian dialectic at work? IDK its a mess any way its looked at )




posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 05:42 AM
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I'll go out on a short limb here. Judging by their names and tactics...this was terrorism. Surprise! Again by Muslims.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 06:22 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
I'll go out on a short limb here. Judging by their names and tactics...this was terrorism. Surprise! Again by Muslims.


Yep.

But, you'll probably be called racist in 3....2.....1........

(Even though muslim is not a race.)



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 06:42 AM
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More accurately, we have a pattern of shootings in GUN-FREE zones! What this proves is that gun control doesn't work. If you want the people to be safe, the people must be free to arm themselves.

If one of the employees at this social services center had been armed, the attackers wouldn't have killed nearly as many people.

www.newsmax.com...


Roughly 40 school districts in Ohio allow teachers to pack concealed guns in the classroom, and more and more of them are getting trained on how to stop an "active shooter."



"The single most important factor in active killer death toll is time. The longer killers have their way in so-called 'no-guns' zones, the more people die. The sooner they are stopped, the fewer people die. It is really that simple," said Chad Baus, also with the Buckeye Firearms Foundation.


That's how you save lives in an active shooter scenario. The police cannot and never will be able to respond immediately to an active shooter - which means they are always going to be able to take lives. The only way to respond to an active shooter immediately is by abolishing "gun-free" zones and arming employees at all workplaces. Once there is no place where people can gather were they would all be unarmed, active shooters will no longer be able to kill mass numbers of people before they are stopped.

Gun control isn't the solution. Gun control is the problem.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 06:48 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
I'll go out on a short limb here. Judging by their names and tactics...this was terrorism. Surprise! Again by Muslims.


I agree on that. With his recent visit to Saudi Arabia where he met his wife. But at the end of the day if its Santa Claus or Hitler involved the US government will try to erode a little more of our Constitutional rights.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 07:09 AM
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originally posted by: gps777
If the Gov wanted all the citizens to be unarmed eventually, couldn't they put a ban on the sale of bullets?


Most likely not. Basing off the Heller decision a few years ago, an ammunition ban is almost certainly unconstitutional, because it prevents a citizen from using a firearm for the 'traditionally lawful purpose of self-defense'.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 07:19 AM
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a reply to: theonenonlyone

No...it's not "crazy"...it's common sense.
Being effectually "neutered" (gun laws that keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens) makes one the perfect victim.




Would you throw more fire on a fire to put it out?


Actually....depending on the type of fire, yes.
Have you ever seen an oil well fire extinguished using C4? It's used to suffocate the fire, and the effect is instantaneous. Now, go think on that a second.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
I'll go out on a short limb here. Judging by their names and tactics...this was terrorism. Surprise! Again by Muslims.


You're most likely correct.

Still, we can't blame, punish or restrict the constitutional rights of all Muslims due to the acts of a relative few. But please, feel free to blame, punish, and restrict the constitutional rights of all gun owners for the acts of a relative few.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:20 AM
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Here are the racist blurbs being spewed once again regarding a religion.

Speaking in a way that is against Islam isn't racist as Islam is not a race, and it isn't illegal either!.

Discrimination by prospective employers and service providers and such, regarding race and religion, are illegal, but all one has to do to avoid being charged with that is to simply not reply and give no reason for the refusal to provide service or employment.

Laws are written for those who will follow them.

Those who write the laws always leave a loophole there for themselves or their relatives and/or friends/cronies to utilize when they get into a bind....

I would suppose that a government facility which serves the developmentally disadvantaged would have been a "gun free zone" like most school type institutions are.

Once again, laws are written for those who follow them.

What are we supposed to do about the supposedly "mentally ill" among us?, institutionalize them?. We used to until not so long ago and that was found to be unlawful as the courts and petty, pitiful and selfish little people frequently used the institutions to lock people up for other than mental health reasons.

The problem has less to do with firearms and more to do with corruption, stupidity and petty selfishness and a particular mental deficiency which is acceptable here in this world, Narcissism.

I meet people all the time who I knew in middle and high school who act the same way they did 40 years ago.

Guns are tools. People use tools all the time to kill one another.

Tools are not anything by themselves unless a person picks them up and utilizes them, either for their intended purpose or for other purposes. Guns simply project force over a distance, and if outlawed, people will find other ways of lashing out at one another or disregard the laws completely.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: theonenonlyone

originally posted by: neo96
Well people here we are once again. Before the bodies are even cold. Before any of us even know what the real facts are. .



Yep here we are once again, a pro gun thread defending their guns. Never mind that 13 or so people were just killed by guns.

The fact is, a gun were used in the mass killing, not bats, not cars, not knives..etc guns.

Unless he was talking about some other incident.


We should probably ban cars. Oh hey guys! Ohio just broke records for Gun Registration on Black Friday. Hooorah!

Arm yourselves ... to the teeth!

We don't have a mass shooting problem, it's a mass stupidity problem.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Obama is a creep, plain and simple.

I shutter think about what this country would look like if he had his way.

Politicize, politicize, politicize. Hes damn good at that, nothing else!



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Well people here we are once again. Before the bodies are even cold. Before any of us even know what the real facts are. With the San Bernadino shooter(s) at large. Obama acts like Obama because as a general rule he doesn't even wait for facts. Same old. Same old from our 'fearless leader.

Hes running his mouth pushing the same thing he has been for the past seven YEARS.



President Barack Obama commented Wednesday on the shooting in San Bernardino, California, where at least 14 people were killed and an additional 14 were injured according to police. "We have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there's some steps we could take, not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently, common-sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks," Obama said during an interview with CBS News' Norah O'Donnell.


Obama On San Bernardino Shooting: 'We Have A Pattern Now Of Mass Shootings'

Mr. Sensitivity: At Paris News Conference, Obama Says Mass Shootings Only Happen In America

Obama pushes for gun control after Planned Parenthood shooting

16 Times Obama's Shame

Let's not forget California has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

Let's not forget that current administration has been arming ISIS with 'weapons of war' in Syria.

Let's not forget that the current administration role during Fast and Furious arming Mexican Drug Cartels.

Let's not forget everything he has been giving those people in other countries he wants banned here.

Truth, Justice, and the American way.

Golf clap Mr, President.

The bodies aren't even cold.


Well, they couldn't blame it on a right-wing Conservative Christian this time. The only other option is to call for more gun control in a city that already has some of the most restrictive.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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yes, blame it on the guns, not the govt running these violent cities... what an easy cop out
edit on 3-12-2015 by tonycodes because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:56 AM
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Simple fix. Lets make murder a crime as we all know more laws prevent crime. That will prevent these acts going forward.

Wait.... Isn't that already a crime?



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: neo96
Well people here we are once again. Before the bodies are even cold. Before any of us even know what the real facts are. With the San Bernadino shooter(s) at large. Obama acts like Obama because as a general rule he doesn't even wait for facts. Same old. Same old from our 'fearless leader.

Hes running his mouth pushing the same thing he has been for the past seven YEARS.



President Barack Obama commented Wednesday on the shooting in San Bernardino, California, where at least 14 people were killed and an additional 14 were injured according to police. "We have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there's some steps we could take, not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently, common-sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks," Obama said during an interview with CBS News' Norah O'Donnell.


Obama On San Bernardino Shooting: 'We Have A Pattern Now Of Mass Shootings'

Mr. Sensitivity: At Paris News Conference, Obama Says Mass Shootings Only Happen In America

Obama pushes for gun control after Planned Parenthood shooting

16 Times Obama's Shame

Let's not forget California has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

Let's not forget that current administration has been arming ISIS with 'weapons of war' in Syria.

Let's not forget that the current administration role during Fast and Furious arming Mexican Drug Cartels.

Let's not forget everything he has been giving those people in other countries he wants banned here.

Truth, Justice, and the American way.

Golf clap Mr, President.

The bodies aren't even cold.


Well, they couldn't blame it on a right-wing Conservative Christian this time. The only other option is to call for more gun control in a city that already has some of the most restrictive.


Surely you jest. It was right wing rhetoric that caused these poor Muslims to act in such a violent way.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut




That is wonderful, but legislation is not specifically for you and only you. It has to cover all people. You can't just assume that they are all as responsible and careful as you.


Legislation specifically affects me. There are 100 million other gun owners that had nothing to do with the Islamic Terrorism that took place yesterday.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 10:23 AM
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Years ago Obama stated on record that no civilian in the world should own a gun.


originally posted by: neo96
Well people here we are once again. Before the bodies are even cold. Before any of us even know what the real facts are. With the San Bernadino shooter(s) at large. Obama acts like Obama because as a general rule he doesn't even wait for facts. Same old. Same old from our 'fearless leader.

Hes running his mouth pushing the same thing he has been for the past seven YEARS.



President Barack Obama commented Wednesday on the shooting in San Bernardino, California, where at least 14 people were killed and an additional 14 were injured according to police. "We have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there's some steps we could take, not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently, common-sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks," Obama said during an interview with CBS News' Norah O'Donnell.


Obama On San Bernardino Shooting: 'We Have A Pattern Now Of Mass Shootings'

Mr. Sensitivity: At Paris News Conference, Obama Says Mass Shootings Only Happen In America

Obama pushes for gun control after Planned Parenthood shooting

16 Times Obama's Shame

Let's not forget California has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

Let's not forget that current administration has been arming ISIS with 'weapons of war' in Syria.

Let's not forget that the current administration role during Fast and Furious arming Mexican Drug Cartels.

Let's not forget everything he has been giving those people in other countries he wants banned here.

Truth, Justice, and the American way.

Golf clap Mr, President.

The bodies aren't even cold.

edit on 3-12-2015 by fishy6 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 10:31 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: chr0naut




That is wonderful, but legislation is not specifically for you and only you. It has to cover all people. You can't just assume that they are all as responsible and careful as you.


Legislation specifically affects me. There are 100 million other gun owners that had nothing to do with the Islamic Terrorism that took place yesterday.


Exactly.

I've said numerous times that I have no problems with 'gun control' that is specifically designed to prevent criminals and the insane from acquiring firearms. The huge issue I have with it is that somewhere along the way, respect and recognition of my rights as a law-abiding citizen (not to mention tens of millions of other people) are completely disregarded and we end up bearing the brunt of whatever restrictions are proposed.

That disregard for the rights of our law-abiding citizens and due process is not something that our society would tolerate on any other issue. Why is it OK here?


edit on 3-12-2015 by vor78 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Bearack

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: neo96
Well people here we are once again. Before the bodies are even cold. Before any of us even know what the real facts are. With the San Bernadino shooter(s) at large. Obama acts like Obama because as a general rule he doesn't even wait for facts. Same old. Same old from our 'fearless leader.

Hes running his mouth pushing the same thing he has been for the past seven YEARS.



President Barack Obama commented Wednesday on the shooting in San Bernardino, California, where at least 14 people were killed and an additional 14 were injured according to police. "We have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there's some steps we could take, not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently, common-sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks," Obama said during an interview with CBS News' Norah O'Donnell.


Obama On San Bernardino Shooting: 'We Have A Pattern Now Of Mass Shootings'

Mr. Sensitivity: At Paris News Conference, Obama Says Mass Shootings Only Happen In America

Obama pushes for gun control after Planned Parenthood shooting

16 Times Obama's Shame

Let's not forget California has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

Let's not forget that current administration has been arming ISIS with 'weapons of war' in Syria.

Let's not forget that the current administration role during Fast and Furious arming Mexican Drug Cartels.

Let's not forget everything he has been giving those people in other countries he wants banned here.

Truth, Justice, and the American way.

Golf clap Mr, President.

The bodies aren't even cold.


Well, they couldn't blame it on a right-wing Conservative Christian this time. The only other option is to call for more gun control in a city that already has some of the most restrictive.


Surely you jest. It was right wing rhetoric that caused these poor Muslims to act in such a violent way.


Your kidding right? What right wing rhetoric would that be? It couldn't be that they did this because of Islamic radicalism and following the Quran to the T? The bias of some is astonishing!



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 10:48 AM
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www.politico.com...


That didn't take long.
Take guns away even when terrorists conduct an attack here in the United States. Great plan.



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