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San Bernardino, Calif., fire units responding to reports of 20-victim shooting incident -

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT




Has Obama done his gun control speech yet?


yes he has, just as soon as he heard, the bodies weren't even cold yet and he is on the band wagon.




"We don't know that much yet" about the circumstances in San Bernardino, Mr. Obama said in an exclusive interview Wednesday afternoon with CBS News' Norah O'Donnell, shortly after the incident occurred.

"The one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world," the president said. "We should never that think this is something that just happens in the ordinary course of events because it doesn't happen with the same frequency in other countries."
Obama responds to San Bernardino shooting


and the cbs interview,
Obama Reacts To CA Shooting


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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: IAMTAT



Their garage then became a drive-thru 'Bombs-R-Us' for other Islamic terrorist cells.


Did I miss something? Has it been proven they manufactured bombs for other individuals or terror cells?


Very little has been proven yet.
Officials said there was an IED factory at the house, for remote detonation. Neighbors said they worked in their garage late at night together and they received packages frequently.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: theonenonlyone
Well since he was Muslim, I guess it could be called an Islamic terrorist attack just like the Dear shooting was a Christian Terrorist attack.



The MSM was quick to point out that the Dear shooting was a Christian terror attack. But last night it was like trying to pull teeth to link the California shooting to a Muslim perp. It didn't fit their narrative.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

How is the MSM distracting anybody? They keep asking if it was terrorism and keep being told it's too early to say.

Side note - the FBI is searching a house they say "will likely reveal clues to motive."


There's your answer right there (underlined and in bold). It's not ONLY the MSM, but the MSM following the "agenda" in lockstep with leadership.

How long is it going to take for Dear Leader to come out and say the words..."This was a TERRORIST ATTACK on US soil" ???

Answer: A long, long time...because this runs counter to his apologist socialist agenda!!!



That makes zero sense. There were, even yesterday, commentators saying they'd bet anything it was a terrorist attack. The MSM keeps asking if it was terrorism.

But somehow they're "in lockstep" that it wasn't terrorism and distracting people? So point blank asking if it was terrorism, repeatedly, is distracting people?

Zero sense dude. Zero.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:07 AM
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ya know, it seems like the guy would have been a better terrorist asset alive? or is my imagination just more evil than your typical terrorist here?



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: theonenonlyone
Well since he was Muslim, I guess it could be called an Islamic terrorist attack just like the Dear shooting was a Christian Terrorist attack.



The MSM was quick to point out that the Dear shooting was a Christian terror attack. But last night it was like trying to pull teeth to link the California shooting to a Muslim perp. It didn't fit their narrative.


Obviously this was a copycat killing of the 'Dear' shooting.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: angeldoll

In my opinion, such heartfelt speeches after an assault on westerners was long overdue. I don't think the Muslims have spoken out enough through the years, and hardly anyone has criticized them for it. It's not PC.

If it were Christians that were perpetrating the assaults, they'd have good Christians marching on Washington, holding prayer vigils, making daily appeals, and making amends for their rogue counterparts.

The Muslims have not spoken up enough against their radicalized religious members, so it was nice to see this last night.

Perhaps if the American-funded ISIS saw each and every one of their brethren standing up for love and against senseless slaughter, it would make a difference.

I don't think we'll ever know.

BTW, I'm not a Christian.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:12 AM
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I think I now know who the FEMA camps will be for....



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: Bridgewater
Hey fellas,
I haven't really kept up with the 140+ pages here so forgive me if this point has already been made, but I think there was already a thread on here touching on how all this negative talk of Islam and misdirected anger could cause a divide. I can see how an otherwise peaceful Muslim could feel cornered by their peers and eventually snap and over time become radicalized. No doubt that scenario the individual would have to be unstable to begin with. Regardless, I'm sure there are many in this country who feel ostracized largely thanks to the media and society's everyday ignorant buttholes.


Who cares. I'm more concerned with the racial divide between blacks and whites. That should be our number one concern, racially, instead it looks more like this administration is just out to turn anyone and everyone they can against the right.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: MRuss
a reply to: angeldoll



If it were Christians that were perpetrating the assaults, they'd have good Christians marching on Washington, holding prayer vigils, making daily appeals, and making amends for their rogue counterparts.



I did not see that happen when Dear committed his acts.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

to turn anyone and everyone they can against the right.


I would argue they are doing a pretty good job of that themselves. Well, from what I am reading on ATS anyways.
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: WeDemBoyz

Thank you. Shoddy reports by MSM made that a bit confusing for me.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6


Does this tie in to the reports of "Muslim looking men" driving by scenes and then taking off, as was reported over the scanner?


You mean the "longbeards" that kept being mentioned on the scanners?



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: WeDemBoyz

Thank you. Shoddy reports by MSM made that a bit confusing for me.


Shoddy?

There are so many inconsistencies and disconnects it looks like Sandy Hook.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
A couple things I haven't seen expanded on which warrant further thought/investigation...

1.) The Muslim shooters were both allegedly carrying GoPro cameras mounted on their person. This would seem to suggest THERE IS ACTUAL FIRST PERSON VIDEO of the tragedy, and likely from more than one angle. I mention this not out of morbid curiosity, but rather out of the fact that, if true, this video would contain volumes of information about motive, state of mind and actual execution of the act. Just the simple fact that the perpetrators took the time to strap on cameras in advance of the event SCREAMS about mindset and intent!

2.) In all of the coverage I have been able to find (and this is quite a bit) I have seen the Muslim female has been identified (i.e. named), but no country of origin has been listed, nor has any other background info on her been released...unlike her Muslim male co-accomplice. Why is this? We have repeatedly been told the Muslim male was a US citizen (ad nauseum), but where was the Muslim female accomplice from, and what is her citizenship? This information seems to be dubiously missing from every news story and announcement.



It's called fear mongering... We, the right, are accused of it, but it's the left that has made everyone cower in fear, afraid to admit that this woman was born in the middle east. These news outlets (minus Fox of course) are afraid to say something that doesn't fit the narrative and could possibly offend a minority or left winger.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: WeDemBoyz

Thank you. Shoddy reports by MSM made that a bit confusing for me.


Shoddy?

There are so many inconsistencies and disconnects it looks like Sandy Hook.


Yup. That is what happens when each and every news organization reports the "facts" that suit their individual agendas.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

What do you expect? It hasn't been 24 hours yet. You expect them not to make mistakes in all the chaos?.
I knew some would say it is faked what is next? Photos of people who look a little alike and calling them all actors?.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701
all of those middle easterners visiting the garage where the two perps were working at odd hours for weeks must just be mohammed's elves and not coconspirators then. glad that's settled. yup. these two worked totally alone. no need to look for the support cell.


Sad that residents were too afraid of being politically incorrect to report these people...

I knew after the whole Ahmed Clockmed Muhamed incident that someone was going to end up losing their life because they were afraid they'd basically lose their career if they "mistaked" a muslim for potential terrorist activity.

This blood is on the hands of the MSM and all those who called people islamophobes for questioning the activity of muslims.



posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
A couple things I haven't seen expanded on which warrant further thought/investigation...

1.) The Muslim shooters were both allegedly carrying GoPro cameras mounted on their person. This would seem to suggest THERE IS ACTUAL FIRST PERSON VIDEO of the tragedy, and likely from more than one angle. I mention this not out of morbid curiosity, but rather out of the fact that, if true, this video would contain volumes of information about motive, state of mind and actual execution of the act. Just the simple fact that the perpetrators took the time to strap on cameras in advance of the event SCREAMS about mindset and intent!

2.) In all of the coverage I have been able to find (and this is quite a bit) I have seen the Muslim female has been identified (i.e. named), but no country of origin has been listed, nor has any other background info on her been released...unlike her Muslim male co-accomplice. Why is this? We have repeatedly been told the Muslim male was a US citizen (ad nauseum), but where was the Muslim female accomplice from, and what is her citizenship? This information seems to be dubiously missing from every news story and announcement.



It's called fear mongering... We, the right, are accused of it, but it's the left that has made everyone cower in fear, afraid to admit that this woman was born in the middle east. These news outlets (minus Fox of course) are afraid to say something that doesn't fit the narrative and could possibly offend a minority or left winger.


Cowering in fear?

I don't know anyone cowering in fear. I'm sure as hell not. Fox is the biggest fear monger there is....sheesh!

Perhaps a little introspection is in order....
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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: WeDemBoyz

Thank you. Shoddy reports by MSM made that a bit confusing for me.


Shoddy?

There are so many inconsistencies and disconnects it looks like Sandy Hook.

Be careful saying the name of that other place.
We aren't allowed to suspect anything conspiratorial happened there.



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