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San Bernardino, Calif., fire units responding to reports of 20-victim shooting incident -

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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:23 PM
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This guy on Fox sure has a point.

He's never seen CAIR act that fast before.

I haven't seen it either.




posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:24 PM
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Both long rifles have been traced and bought legally and traced back to a known name in the investigation per the ATF.

What CNN is saying.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:25 PM
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Law enforcement sources:
'There wasn't an argument. Farook was there to "Case" the location.'



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:25 PM
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Megan Kelly just reported that second name has been pulled back.

'Hoax'.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:25 PM
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FOX saying second name may still be a hoax.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Why did the brother drive 60 miles to LA during rush hour to meet with CAIR and give a press conference when all of the media is present in his hometown SB?

And hes stated that no officials have contacted him yet so where did he get all of his info? CAIR?


I am betting that they have him in protective custody and that's why. I am willing to bet even more that he is lying about no authorities contacting him. If I had to guess, I would say they had contacted him within hours (if not way less) of finding out he existed.
edit on 12/2/2015 by Kangaruex4Ewe because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
Both long rifles have been traced and bought legally and traced back to a known name in the investigation per the ATF.

What CNN is saying.


Fast and Furious?



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:26 PM
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ok they are pulling the second name back



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Why did the brother drive 60 miles to LA during rush hour to meet with CAIR and give a press conference when all of the media is present in his hometown SB?

And hes stated that no officials have contacted him yet so where did he get all of his info? CAIR?


Very good point... I think CAIR came out to do damage control because they were behind/tied to the lawsuit for the mosque and they know their connection to Farook is going to come out as a result. They want to distance themselves from this attack and say they had nothing to do with it.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Shocking....

Again my personal bias, but Fox reports first then fact checks after and hopes things stick.

I know CNN can be just as bad, but they just reported the first name like a hour ago.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
This guy on Fox sure has a point.

He's never seen CAIR act that fast before.

I haven't seen it either.


The cover-up begins We go from 3 shooters to 2. LA TIMES pulls their releasing of second name they claim LEO gave them. Now say it was a hoax.

Des



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes




Three devices destroyed, at three locations - shooting location and two others, maybe SUV and house?


I couldn't find anything on that, was that just what you heard or got a source for it.

Everything I found say the reports of bombs were found to be false.


FNC reported it, just after 11 CST. They didn't say "bombs"; they simply said three things were detonated. Suspicious objects could be, that turned out to not be bombs. They didn't say one way or the other on that.

For the thread in general - FNC is also questioning the suspect numbers. Three men reported shooting, then a man and woman killed, and one man in custody, so why are they not looking for another man? Plus there seems to be a push to claiming only two shooters, and not three, which is what witnesses reported.

Very odd, that. Is this like the person of interest in that shooting that included the congresswoman, who dropped off discussion the same day?

The CAIR press conference is ridiculous. No one speaking, save the brother-in-law, looks anything close to upset. That they are speaking at all pretty much clinches it that Islam is involved in some way.

Breaking statement on FNC - The angry, returning premise is set aside, and they are now saying the man was likely casing the location to see if it was a soft target.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: NightFlight

Sure, what ever that has to do with this.

To be fair I am not saying it is confirmed, just what CNN is saying.
They could be wrong.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
a reply to: six67seven

I think a lot likely hinges on what they label this as and they want to make damn sure they have it right. I am also assuming that with such a high profile case, they want to be sure they follow all the rules exactly like they are supposed to, to keep from screwing up a court case so bad that the suspect walks free on a technicality.


well they dont currently have any suspects that are alive.

Just pulled the second name



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: IAMTAT

Shocking....

Again my personal bias, but Fox reports first then fact checks after and hopes things stick.

I know CNN can be just as bad, but they just reported the first name like a hour ago.

Nobody blames you for having personal bias.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes





Breaking statement on FNC - The angry, returning premise is set aside, and they are now saying the man was likely casing the location to see if it was a soft target.


Or they just got some bad info like the second name.
Maybe the next presser will give more info.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: Destinyone
The cover-up begins We go from 3 shooters to 2. LA TIMES pulls their releasing of second name they claim LEO gave them. Now say it was a hoax.

Des


The name they pulled back was actually posted in this very thread earlier in the afternoon and was pointed out that it's actually the Turkish President's name.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:31 PM
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Now FNC has state that the second name is NOT from the police, and could, in fact, be a hoax. Wish they'd make up their minds already!

The first name, they confirm as a suspect.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:32 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: NightFlight

Sure, what ever that has to do with this.

To be fair I am not saying it is confirmed, just what CNN is saying.
They could be wrong.


Fast and Furious was the code name for the ATF to sell AR-15s too the Mexican drug cartels through legal gun stores in Texas, New Mexico and Arizona. It was approved by the attorney General and Obama.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:32 PM
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Facebook has blocked access to his profile (raheel.farook) but here's a couple pictures people had downloaded before that happened:



Unfortunately it doesn't look like anyone screencapped any of his posts. Here's his LinkedIn profile.



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