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San Bernardino, Calif., fire units responding to reports of 20-victim shooting incident -

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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: angeldoll
Five people from the Council of American Islamic Relations are on the News giving heartfelt emotional responses to what's happened. I feel near tears I'm so sorry for them, they seem almost desperate to convince us they are sorry, they hate this, and they want only for the perps to be captured,,and to send condolences to the families of the deceased.

It's moving.

(I feel sorry for them because they are innocent, and yet are apologizing, but at the same time, this apology has gone a long way with me, and I'm so happy to see they did this. It took a lot of courage.)


Screw them! There are 14 dead Americans because of these scumbags! How about shedding a tear for the victims?

CAIR is part of the problem IMO.


The people on TV didn't kill anybody, and simply wanted to communicate publicly how horrible this is and how they disdain it. It was a moving statement, and they were genuine. If you don't like it, that's your prerogative.




posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes




Three devices destroyed, at three locations - shooting location and two others, maybe SUV and house?


I couldn't find anything on that, was that just what you heard or got a source for it.

Everything I found say the reports of bombs were found to be false.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Conviently, they allowed CAIR to get their say in...before they announce there is Radical Islamic terrorism involved.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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Anyone find it interesting that CNN did not even report the name until moments before CAIR was ready with a close relation of the suspected shooter.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: jefwane

Meh, I find it very CNN-like

Agenda-driven CNN



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: six67seven

We didn't have much on the Paris attacks either at this point.
With big investigations like this, it takes longer for it to come.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: six67seven

I think a lot likely hinges on what they label this as and they want to make damn sure they have it right. I am also assuming that with such a high profile case, they want to be sure they follow all the rules exactly like they are supposed to, to keep from screwing up a court case so bad that the suspect walks free on a technicality.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Because no one knows it is that yet

I would agree with you there is a chance, and good chance but hardly confirmed at this point.

Why can't CAIR just know that they needed to speak and did so?



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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CAIR holds a press conference as damage control? Well no s#^*, Lone Ranger. I'd be holding one too, considering as evidenced in this thread that deh billions of ebil Muslimz is exactly where everyone went straight away. Remember, painting all Christians as blood-thirsty anti-abortionists is oh so very wrong to do, but the same respect has been brainwashed right out of most Americans' heads when it comes to Muslims. So CAIR speaking is a damned no-brainer. Muslims are always target numero uno for blaming in this country.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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I think a lot likely hinges on what they label this as and they want to make damn sure they have it right.


They sure didn't care a few days ago.

That was cut, and dry and packaged for mass consumption.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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Fox news keeps stating that it's getting clearer as to what this is (terrorist attack) by the minute. Take that for what you will. I don't know if they are privy to information they haven't reported yet or if they are just assuming.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
It is possible the third suspect was not involved.

www.breitbart.com...


The cover-up has begun.
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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: six67seven
Ive never seen little to no concrete information come out on an event of this magnitude 12 hrs after the initial event taking place, ever!!

WTF is going on!?


Sadly, this is political. Just like they're looking into the current Administration cooking the intelligence to make Isis seem like a small problem, the last thing they want this to be is terrorism because of how they think it will look for Obama.

If these were white or black shooters, all sorts of information would have been given. They would have ran to the microphones to say the shooter's are white or black.

It's just Politics.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:19 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: IAMTAT

Because no one knows it is that yet

I would agree with you there is a chance, and good chance but hardly confirmed at this point.

Why can't CAIR just know that they needed to speak and did so?

I was speaking to the timing and delay of the press conference, where they most likely will say there is a high probability of there being radical Islamic terrorism angle to this case.

I think we all know by now that this is NOT a disgruntled employee/workplace violence incident.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

My bet is they are assuming, but that is my personal bias against them.
Just like I would say the same about MSNBC, both are far to right/left for me.
Unless they have some source in the FBI that is leaking info to them but I doubt that.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:20 PM
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theres 105 million radicalized muslims according to muslim sites... i dont wanna lump american muslims in this bc theres no evidence of a massing here in the usa.. but i gotta say, if there were 105 million radicalized roman catholics killing people.. id denounce my religion.. no one is forcing anyone to be a part of any religion in the usa.. but you do have a choice of who and what you associate with.... CAIR is killing me.. how are these people any sort of authority on this situation over our own officials
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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:21 PM
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I think we all know by now that this is NOT a disgruntled employee/workplace violence incident.

Well all the bombs that were reported, to the best of my knowledge, have been shown to be not such.
They literally drove past cops that were at their house AFTER the attack which is what lead to them finding the SUV.

It is starting to seem less planned, but still a bit planned.


Oh and they delayed every presser so far, nothing new.

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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah

Brown people/Muslims=terrorists, jihadist, rapists

Black people=Thugs, criminals, gang bangers

White people/Christian extremists/right wing nuts=mentally ill, lone wolves, don't use such a broad brush, we don't have all the evidence yet. Set up, false flag


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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:23 PM
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Why did the brother drive 60 miles to LA during rush hour to meet with CAIR and give a press conference when all of the media is present in his hometown SB?

And hes stated that no officials have contacted him yet so where did he get all of his info? CAIR?



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:23 PM
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I found this LA times article a tad bit odd, considering what it could suggest. Anyways, a woman inside the building during the beginning escalation, texted her husband and told him the drill has started.

However, to her surprise, the team approaching the building were in full gear and armed.

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At first, Dorothy Vong assumed it was a drill -- just like all the others at her work.

At the Inland Regional Center, where she’s a nurse, the staff works with clients and parents of clients who are sometimes angry. They have active-shooter drills every month or so.

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