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San Bernardino, Calif., fire units responding to reports of 20-victim shooting incident -

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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

I'm going with my illegal wiretaps massive drug arrests cartel theory. And that someone involved was attending that banquet. See this, which I posted earlier in this thread.

ETA: Female activity in said cartels has been increasing, particularly in leadership roles. And there was this in June.
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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Who confirmed he was an employee? Google brings up sources I don't personally trust.
Not saying it is false, just wondering where the info is coming from.


Here is an inspection report he mad in october.

www.sbcounty.gov...



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Nyiah

I don't recall them saying the race of the shooter in Colorado Springs either. Wasn't until he came out that we knew. Maybe I'm misremembering, but all I kept hearing was beefy big trenchcoat and camo or something.

I could be the one remembering wrong here, too, but I swear they did, just in an unconfirmed capacity. Not like outright saying it, but akin to a "no comment" approach from their LEOs.

If the mentions of hispanic descriptions are correct, then the possibility of a cartel or gang strike on the place starts to gain a little more merit versus 2 warring gangs going apesheet. You never know who could have been an informant at some point.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: neoholographic
It's crazy when you look at the Politics. Conservatives are hoping they're Muslim and Liberals are hoping the shooters are white.


It'll be even crazier if they turn out to be Muslims and they did this with legally acquired assault rifles.


In California ?

They are not LEGAL.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

It makes sense because the people attending the party were vulnerable and unable to defend themselves at the time.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: tonycodes

Act of war is a bit strong, that would require lots of proof.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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We know what Mexicans look like in So Cal...

a reply to: WeAre0ne



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: WeAre0ne
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

I have lived in LA my whole life. It's not always easy to tell.

In fact, I live 10 miles from this event.


Okay, I live about 50 away. And lived in Los Angeles for nearly 40 years.

If you can't tell between a Hispanic guy and a Mid Eastern guy, I dunno what to say.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
Oh my! The thought of a female jihadist is very bothersome.

Sounds like this might have been a sleeper cell that got activated by someone on the inside of this agency who got ticked off about something.


Maybe Farooq himself was part of the cell and left party to activate cell...because it was after all, a "Christ"mas party. Early reports said that Farooq left 30 minutes before shooting. Sounds pretty reasonable to assume that it was him who left and returned with some shooters. A large party, a celebration of Christ...the perfect hit for Jihadis.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Good deal, thanks for that.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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FBI now saying it might be terrorism.

With all the secrecy it's most likely terrorism.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Are you being serious? A lot of middle eastern guys look mexican. A lot of mexicans look middle eastern. This is actually a known joke among Mexicans to pretend to be middle eastern.

WhoTF are you people.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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Fox just hinted they have breaking news on the name



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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fox showing clsoe ups of the bodies to try to get an id of gender or race,now its dark again or at least audio went out

i think the fox media team is not following orders or they are saying and doing thigns they shouldnt as every time they try to show close ups or talk about a few other topics the audio goes down

the currentl lady was just talking about censorship,audio back up
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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Assault rifles are illegal in all 50 states. Assault weapons are legal in California. No more than 10 rounds in the clip.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: tonycodes

Act of war is a bit strong, that would require lots of proof.


like they did this in the name of radical islam? that kind of proof. i think this can be a cartel situatiion too.. wierd they are still talking about amazon



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

With the amount of mixed people we have all over this nation, you are talking out your behind.

I live in SoCal, east county San Diego less than 100 miles from the border.
I would say I have a pretty good idea, but hardly an expert on it. Been wrong before.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: WeAre0ne
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

I have lived in LA my whole life. It's not always easy to tell.

In fact, I live 10 miles from this event.


Okay, I live about 50 away. And lived in Los Angeles for nearly 40 years.

If you can't tell between a Hispanic guy and a Mid Eastern guy, I dunno what to say.

You know you can still take, say, a Cuban and an Italian, put them side by side, and have people tell you that's 2 Italians, right? BTDT with a Cuban family friend who looked more straight out of Rome than parents from Havana.
Also, I've met a blonde haired, green eyed Mexican with a good tan. Nice lady, but didn't look a lick like what YOU would peg as Mexican, so no, you can't always peg them right off the bat as Hispanic.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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obiously the fbi knows more then they are telling us" from the fox 10 live feed



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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It seems none of the stations can agree on what to call it. I've heard "workplace violence", "domestic terrorism", and possibly "international incident".

Even they can't get their stories straight. If they don't know then they should just say that.



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