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So let's save the kiddie book stuff for kids,
So leave the fairy tales for kids so they can sleep better while Parents do what parents will do when necessary.
originally posted by: criticalhit
I don't like Donald.
But.... I'm with him on this actually.
Basic common sense, don't start a fight unless you intend to win, don't shoot or bomb anyone at all ever unless it comes to that and you're left with no choice.
But then if you do, don't be a Mary about it. Bombing the living crud out of a place "doesn't create more terrorists" Bombing their homes and buildings and infrastructure then leaving the people around in piles of rubble to be pissed about it sure does though, not killing civilians leaves angry children, not actually ever "beating" your enemy is what creates more enemies... America has been fighting less and less of anything you could call a war since WW2 on each round... We Bombed cities, the Germans and Japanese are sort of pals at least today, they lost, actually "lost" the war.
It sounds Horrific and Trump obviously has a way of trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator of thinking because that's who votes, lol.
None the less, he's sort of right. Who in the hell in the History of the world ever fought so many wars, didn't bother to finish them, then left this many enemies around for later to bite them in the arse? Sooooo we "made up" rules after WW2 then in following them decided that was "The American way" Really? Before WW2 for the whole rest of our History as "America" was beating the living crap out of everybody, From the Natives to Japan who actually ever "came back" and messed with us? Now what we get with our "new" manner of thinking is North Korea and ISIS when we fight.
Rule # 1 Never Start a War
Rule # 2 If you have to fight, finish them.
Sorry but no one out there but us as Global cop gives a damn about rules, outside of the West our "rules of engagement" should be expected to be utterly ignored, which is exactly what happens in every "hot spot" we have created by fighting these pseudo wars/police actions.
I mean for Pete's sake, what effect would it have on any of you to be in scenarios where someone phones in bomb strikes and you get warning to flee then your house blows up? You'd be a Terrorist in 3 seconds, this IS actually all moronic, or "only kill combatants" because you know... no one will be showing up at the door to tell the 7 kids that Dad was killed by YOU and they wont grow up to fight? it's an awful thing, it really is but that goes away when you bomb cities, people A: "don't live to do it back to you 10 years later and B: Are too damn jumpy from bombs going off if they do live to ever fight again.
Do I believe that Trump if elected will not just "start more wars" for no good reason? HELL NO, he's a nut case.
But, the basic premise is real if you're going to fight, fight. Just don't fight unless you HAVE to is the point guys like him miss.
I honestly think America is screwed from this trend of "halfway" fighting wars... we left enemies all of the world now, real ones, not political or economic ones. Several of those enemies have or are gaining access to Nukes. Even if we caused this, this isn't the time to turn back, no one will forgive us, we can wax to a completely socialist benevolent State now and North Korea will still try and launch a sub based Nuke at us at some point and take back SK if they can, The Middle East will never relent on conversion of the West etc, etc... Now honestly it IS down to us or them in many places.
Never should have been involved, but, too late now. On a level Trump is right, one way or another we will have to fight for real sooner or later and if you don't kill people there wont be a "West" in our lifetime.
listening to this sort of preachy trendy kind of lies that everyone likes to hear but in the end is such a level of fairy tail it's laughable.
The "terrorists" do what they do to defend their "way of life" and children and families, they believe in what they do, wont give it up nor will their children.
Same goes for us.
When your fighting over belief systems and religion the war wont end until one side is utterly eliminated. As long as Islam exists in its current form, we will have terrorist trying to fulfill its prophecies.
Terrorist have threatened the families of US Service personnel.
You don't always wage war, with kindness, as is "Politically Correct" now days. Sometimes you have to get mean. Real mean.
Sometimes you have to terrorize, terrorist?
If you can't understand what Trump said, why would you post something you don't understand?
originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: theantediluvian
You've lived a very sheltered life haven't you? Terrorist have threatened the families of US Service personnel. It's well documented in US. News, (You look it up). You don't always wage war, with kindness, as is "Politically Correct" now days. Sometimes you have to get mean. Real mean. Did you know? Some forest fires are actually fought with fire? Sometimes you have to terrorize, terrorist? If you can't understand what Trump said, why would you post something you don't understand? I know. Because it makes you "feel" good.
With respect to Trump's suggestion about going after the families of the Jihadists, I think that target is too specific. We would have to commit far too many intelligence resources to determine all those links, as well as the specific locations of the targets in question. I think a more realistic interpretation is that we should not be as skittish as we are about collateral damage.
explain how this "strategy" would work
Yes, this approach is completely unrealistic. Given our self-deluded and self-professed "enlightenment" we'll never do what's necessary to win this war. Trump is basically just preaching to his Choir to get their votes.
despite being wholly unrealistic