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Russian Ministry Of Defense Website Shows Evidence Of ISIS Oil & Turkey [With Sat Images & Video]

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posted on Dec, 3 2015 @ 08:24 PM
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And then there is the Turkish counter that names a specific Syrian with a Russian passport that they claim is the largest buyer of ISIS oil:




"Look, Russia has to prove that the Turkish republic buys oil from Daesh, otherwise this is a slander," he said, while repeating that he would resign if Russia was able to prove their claim.

"Who buys oil from Daesh? Let me say it. George Haswani, holder of a Russian passport and a Syrian national, is one of the biggest merchants in this business," Erdoğan said.


www.dailysabah.com...




posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 02:23 AM
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a reply to: TheChrome

That's also the guy who helped the Maaloula nuns get back to their home. He denied at the time most of the claims.

 


Moscow continues to pressure Turkey on alleged ISIL oil trade



Smuggling oil is one of the main sources of money for ISIL, a terrorist group controlling large swaths of territory in Syria and Iraq, including some oil fields. Turkish officials deny any involvement in buying and selling ISIL's oil.

The appointment of Erdoğan's son-in-law Berat Albayrak to the position of energy minister in Davutoğlu's Cabinet will also be viewed with suspicion from now on as the 37-year-old deputy, who has no real experience as a policymaker, previously made headlines

Albayrak's appointment as minister of energy and natural resources lends weight to allegations that he is acting as an intermediary in Erdoğan's dealings with the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) over the sale of oil.

Albayrak was CEO of pro-government Çalık Holding when Powertrans, a company that was established under the holding, was reportedly given the tender to take part in the controversial transportation of oil drilled in northern Iraq. Albayrak was also among the suspects of major corruption and bribery investigations that were made public on Dec. 25, 2013.

On Tuesday Eren Erdem, a deputy for the main opposition Republican People's Party (CHP), said that the Russian jet was shot down five days after Russia started bombing truck convoys carrying ISIL oil.

Speaking at a press conference in Parliament on Tuesday, Erdem asked Albayrak if the trucks were his. Erdem claimed that close sources had told him 500 of the trucks in Syria belonged to Albayrak and that many of them had Turkey written on them.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 02:57 AM
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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

More non-evidence.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 02:58 AM
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originally posted by: TheChrome
And then there is the Turkish counter that names a specific Syrian with a Russian passport that they claim is the largest buyer of ISIS oil:




"Look, Russia has to prove that the Turkish republic buys oil from Daesh, otherwise this is a slander," he said, while repeating that he would resign if Russia was able to prove their claim.

"Who buys oil from Daesh? Let me say it. George Haswani, holder of a Russian passport and a Syrian national, is one of the biggest merchants in this business," Erdoğan said.



www.dailysabah.com...


Russians engaged in shady dealings? Impossible!



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: bjarneorn

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: 23432


The tankers that are being destroyed were owned by Kurdish mafia of Turkey .


That actually makes a lot of sense.


Really ...

It's idiotic non sense.


Really? It explains why the US was not bombing the convoys: the Kurds are America's only reliable ally in Iraq and it would be counter-productive to alienate them. It also provides the ultimate in plausible deniability: the border guards can collect their bakshish, the shipping companies can line their pockets, but because the Kurds are an oppressed minority in Turkey, if push comes to shove, Erdogan can invite an outside investigation and use the results to clamp down on the Kurds.

Why do you think it is idiotic nonsense. Be specific, please.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Oil is the core problem in the middle east.
I guess you're looking for some when keeping your head in the sand.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: DJW001

Oil is the core problem in the middle east.
I guess you're looking for some when keeping your head in the sand.


Do you have anything to critique about my analysis?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Everything.
You only come with 'blame it Russia' statement ... it's getting almost pathological.
Why don't you further extent your considerations about Valletta, so we can all see what you can come up with ?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: DJW001

Everything.
You only come with 'blame it Russia' statement ... it's getting almost pathological.
Why don't you further extent your considerations about Valletta, so we can all see what you can come up with ?


But I am not blaming the Russians, I am blaming the Kurdish mafia! Please actually read other peoples' posts and respond to them instead of doling out ridicule that makes you look bad.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

And the Maltese ?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: DJW001

And the Maltese ?
The money might still be flowing through Malta. So you think the idea of Erdogan using the Kurdish mafia to traffic the oil for him is idiotic? Okay, maybe it is the Russian mafia after all.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
The money might still be flowing through Malta.


That's the part I'd like you to detail a little bit further.


originally posted by: DJW001
So you think the idea of Erdogan using the Kurdish mafia to traffic the oil for him is idiotic? Okay, maybe it is the Russian mafia after all.


What for proofs are you expecting ?
Do you realise it's much more easy to forge a financial document rather than oil truck convoy ?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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Do you realise it's much more easy to forge a financial document rather than oil truck convoy ?


Then Russia should have no problem cooking it up if necessary, right?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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Why cook a financial document when you have a genuine truck convoy ?

So ... How about Malta ?



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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DJW001, it is not just Russia providing this evidence, in fact Russia is a late-comer to the game. The evidence of Turkey involvement with smuggling oil from ISIS came from Turkey itself, which has been prosecuting and jailing (or worse) reporters to keep this covered up.

How Turkey Exports ISIS Oil To The World: The Scientific Evidence



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: DJW001

Why cook a financial document when you have a genuine truck convoy ?

So ... How about Malta ?


Because without the documentation, you don't know who owns the trucks, who is operating them, and who is profiting by them. What about Malta? It is a less publicized version of Cyprus:


HUNDREDS of Russians have deposited millions of dollars in cash in the Mediterranean island of Cyprus in what local bankers suspect has been a giant scheme to launder the profits of covert Middle East arms sales and the proceeds of Moscow's mafia.


www.independent.co.uk... 6.html



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
DJW001, it is not just Russia providing this evidence, in fact Russia is a late-comer to the game. The evidence of Turkey involvement with smuggling oil from ISIS came from Turkey itself, which has been prosecuting and jailing (or worse) reporters to keep this covered up.

How Turkey Exports ISIS Oil To The World: The Scientific Evidence


Zerohedge takes evidence that Turkey is supporting Turkmen and twists it to make it say it is supporting ISIS. The Russian propaganda mills use zerohedge to make false claims that thee Russian government knows it cannot back up officially.



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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Turkey is supporting Turkmen sounds more plausible than Turkey is supporting Kurdish smugglers. At least, in regard of the previous Turkish/Kurdish fraternity relations.

So, Malta must be the financial platform where the money is going because ... there are a lot of Russians assets there. I see.
How about Northern Cyprus ?


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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 12:43 PM
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You clearly didn't bother to read the article. There is a wealth of info there, and it is not coming from Russia, it is coming from numerous Western sources.


ISIS EXPORT GATEWAY TO GLOBAL CRUDE OIL MARKETS
George KIOURKTSOGLOU; Visiting Lecturer, University of Greenwich, London
Dr Alec D COUTROUBIS; Principal Lecturer, University of Greenwich, London


The tradesmen/smugglers responsible for the transportation and sale of the black gold send convoys of up to thirty trucks to the extraction sites of the commodity. They settle their trades with ISIS on site, encouraged by customer friendly discounts and deferred payment schemes. In this way, crude leaves Islamic State-run wells promptly and travels through insurgent-held parts of Syria, Iraq and Turkey.

Since allied U.S. air-raids do not target the truck lorries out of fear of provoking a backlash from locals, the transport operations are being run efficiently, taking place most of times in broad daylight. Traders lured by high profits are active in Syria (even in government-held territories), Iraq and south-east Turkey.

The supply chain comprises the following localities: Sanliura, Urfa, Hakkari, Siirt, Batman, Osmaniya, Gaziantep, Sirnak, Adana, Kahramarmaras, Adiyaman and Mardin. The string of trading hubs ends up in Adana, home to the major tanker shipping port of Ceyhan.


For the geographically-challenged, Ceyhan is a major oil-transport hub in Turkey.


The terminal is operated by Botas International Limited (BIL), a Turkish state company that also operates the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline on the territory of Turkey.


The paper goes into depth on the type of oil trading taking place and exchange rates used for oil, and how this indicates the anomalous spikes in oil/exchange indicative in black market trading, vis-a-vis ISIS.


The Baltic Exchange (2015 a) tracks the charter rates on major seaborne trading routes of crude oil. To render its service more efficient and easily understood, it uses the system of Baltic Dirty Tanker Indices (Baltic Exchange 2015 b). One of these indices used to be the BDTI TD 11, 80,000 Cross Mediterranean from Baniyas, Syria to Laveras, France (see Map VI). Route 11 was discontinued in September 2011, due to Syria’s civil war and soon thereafter, it was replaced by BDTI TD 19 (TD19-TCE_Calculation 2015), of exactly the same technical specifications as BDTI TD 11, with the exception of the loading port of Ceyhan instead of Baniyas.

From July 2014 until February 2015, the curve of TD 19 features three unusual spikes that do not match the trends featured by the rest of the Middle East trade-routes:


It goes into a lot of technical details, so it's best to review that paper.

But, by all means DJW001, attack the messenger and not the message.
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posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 01:28 PM
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Please indicate where, in your lengthy post, it draws a connection between the Turkish government and ISIS. I see traders, smugglers and middlemen, but no official Turkish support. Of course, zerohedge presents the above in a way that blurs distinctions, leaving the impression that Turkey is actively supporting ISIS, rather than the more nuanced picture that the professor paints of gangsters taking advantage of Turkish corruption. But have it your way: whatever Russia says must be true.

I can't wait until Erdogan and Putin cut their deal, and suddenly Turkey becomes one of Russia's oldest, greatest friends.

Edit to add:


The supply chain comprises the following localities: Sanliura, Urfa, Hakkari, Siirt, Batman, Osmaniya, Gaziantep, Sirnak, Adana, Kahramarmaras, Adiyaman and Mardin. The string of trading hubs ends up in Adana, home to the major tanker shipping port of Ceyhan.


Each hub presents an opportunity to falsify papers so that the government owned facility can be officially ignorant of the oil's provenance.
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