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Are WiFi and other RF signals causing harm to people

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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 09:28 AM
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The attached story is about a school girl who committed suicide because she suffered from allergic reaction from WiFi signals.rare allergic reaction to WiFi

While the story is sad, I now believe it has more merit about the dangers of WiFi and other electronic signals in our personal airspace.

While I have heard of this before it wasn't until recently I personally have been affected by it.

In 56 years I have never had a migraine headache (any real type of headache outside the flu or Malaria), I have had relatively good health. Even my Doctor says my physical health and build is that of a 30 year old. I do have some arthritis but it is minor.

Anyway this year I had my first migraine. Two to be exact and two events of vertigo, only the second vertigo had one of my migraine events. This to me was odd. Thought I was just getting old. But over the last year I also haven't been able to sleep a solid 6 hours without waking. And when I wake it takes 4 hours to go back to sleep, and this after 8 to 10 hours of hard work.

Then I noticed since my last vertigo event there has been a low level hum in my right ear and a high pitched ring in my left year. If I am not listening to TV or Music or around loud equipment it is as if all the bells in London are ringing in my head. I went to the doctor and no physical indication for any of these events especially from the ENT, whom I had expected to find an unfelt sinus condition causing these problems. Nope no sinus problems.

So just this week as my wife and I were talking we decided to turn off the WiFi unit in our home. When ours is off the adjoining neighbors Wifi signals are weaker and filtered out pretty much by our brick walls.

Well low and behold we both had a solid nights sleep and when we awoke we were able to go back to sleep rather quickly and I had no ringing in my ears. No changes in life style other than the WiFi being turned off at night.

Conclusion at this point via observations is, WiFi and other RF signals causes sleep problems, ringing ears and even vertigo if exposed to it long enough for a normal person. The ringing, headaches and Vertigo are the physical releases of the mental stress we are taking in via WiFi/RF/HD signaling. But after a while it wont go away unless we turn it off.

But unfortunately for those not so normal like the girl in the article it may be causing greater harm.

How many people out there may be affected by the WiFi in their homes and Personal Airspace seeing WiFi is virtually everywhere 24/7 and not even suspect it may be the cause?

I really think there may be, even if remotely, a link to a host of mental and physical problems that we need to start looking into that are caused by the change in our electro-charged atmosphere via WiFi and other RF and HD signaling we are exposed to everyday.

I would hate to think I need to wear tin foil hat to bed just to get a good night sleep, turning off the WiFi seems to be the best answer for the time being.

additional reading can be found here some are for and some against.
www.globalhealingcenter.com...
www.safespaceprotection.com...
hps.org...

While the verdict is out I will continue my WiFiless nights and sleep better.


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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:00 AM
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How many people out there may be affected by the WiFi in their homes and Personal Airspace seeing WiFi is virtually everywhere 24/7 and not even suspect it may be the cause?

Huh, that sounds like the truth to me, but, what is the difference between wifi and a radio signal from the nearest broadcast tower? We're bombarded by all that (and much more) as well. I have no idea, just asking.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

I believe the danger is real. They also have been installing those 'smart meters' everywhere which just adds to the dangerous signals even if you don't use wi-fi. I am not sure how you can avoid wi-fi anymore unless you build yourself a lead-lined bunker.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: donktheclown

Yes I know. I purchased a RF detector once all equipment is off the strongest signals are from my electric meter and around the windows. But well within the walls all RF is fairly low if not at all.

Just think though many appliance and our automobiles are all WiFi signaling.

I recently learned that if you want to make your home completely RF proof you will have to Copper wire mesh your attic and walls.

or you could buy a product to harmonize the signals www.safespaceprotection.com...


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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

I've also wondered about things like "Bluetooth"

The impact may not be immediate but long-term exposure could cause a litany of health issues. Like GMOs, it is virtually unstudied/unstudied since it's so new



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

here is alink to another site about allergies to WiFi and RF

articles.mercola.com...



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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I often feel that if we could see all the radiation swirling around us, we would freak out. Ever since a smart meter was stuck on our house without our knowledge or consent a few years ago, on the outside wall next to the master bedroom, I wake up like clockwork sometime between 3:10 am and 3:40 am. I believe that's when they send their signal to the power company. Imagine the power of a weapon that makes everybody so tired and dizzy they just barely get through the day.......things that make you go hmmm....

I have constant tinnitus at home which I believe is the WiFi. Also, a LOT of people have been coming down with severe vertigo, and the doctors have no idea why. It's environmental pollution on a scale never before experienced by humans. Eventually it will be addressed, but for right now, nobody cares as long as they can get on the internet or play on their phone. All those people with brain cancer, including the abnormal number of children? Apparently people don't care unless it affects them personally.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn
If you wanted to do an experiment to see if the Wifi was affecting you, the way you did it isn't the right way. You have knowledge of whether the Wifi is on or off which can bias your results. If you have anxiety about the wifi being on the anxiety can affect you and thus the cause might not be the Wifi.

The proper way to do the experiment to see if WiFi affects your sleep for example would be to have your wife either turn the Wifi on, or turn it off while you're trying to sleep. It should have a cardboard box over it so you can't tell (open in the back for air circulation if needed).

Then you keep a log on how well you sleep each night.

The more nights you do this the better your data set, but I'd suggest at least 20 nights.

Then compare your sleep logs with your wife's logs of whether the wifi was on or off.

That way you can rule out some bias or placebo (or anti-placebo) type effect, which can be significant. What you've described so far doesn't rule that out, and in fact the Wifi may not be affecting you if you're experiencing some kind of placebo effect from turning it off. It's like taking a sugar pill that really doesn't do anything except psychologically, but this impact can be real. However it doesn't mean the sugar pill is some wonder drug.


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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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Wifi Router at 5 meters is 0.1-.02 V/m
Bluetooth device at 50cm is 0.3-0.7 V/m
Mobile phone mast at 150 meters is 0.5-2 V/m
Mobile next to head is 10-150 V/m

So compared to mobile phones the intensity of radiation from wifi and bluetooth is far less.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

actually I did not have any anxiety at all about the WiFi. I was talking to my wife about why the ringing in my ears and she said she had t too. Then as almost the same instant we both questions if the Wifi had anything to do with it. so we turned it off to see.

After that we saw a difference then I researched to see if others had the same hence the links I posted.

then I read about this girl today and decided to start a thread on the subject, and raise an awareness and gather others opinions.

You opinion is noted but at the same time attributes everything one something that did not exist previously to our truning the WiFi off, "an anxiety".



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
You opinion is noted but at the same time attributes everything one something that did not exist previously to our truning the WiFi off, "an anxiety".
OK then placebo effect if you prefer that. Turning it off could be like taking a sugar pill. It may have an effect on you just like a sugar pill placebo can have an effect, but that doesn't mean either the sugar pill or the wi-fi is the root cause.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: glend

yes that is noted in some articles I posted and did not post. But we also have Electric wiring int he house as do you that also emits a charged signal as well as other appliances as well.

My neighbors wifi is weaker than mine but I can pick both of them up with the wifi receiver.

The body is a receiver of these and other signals.

On top of all the man made ones we have Solar rays and magnetisms, gravity, Gama Rays, and cosmic rays just to name a few.

After awhile your environment becomes polluted with all these RF/HD, natural and unnatural signals and wavelengths that sooner or later they will indeed affect you.

Low levels of Radon say 4.1 will cause cancer after 20 years of exposure the higher the radon the shorter period of exposure is needed. The same could be said about Rf and other signals we are bombarded with.

It is no wonder Ozone layer is so important in protecting us from the solar radiation waves and natural RF sginals of the Universe, not to mention that when that radiation interacts with Hydrogen peroxide gas in the upper atmosphere it produces water ( the positive side to solar radiation).

my point is lower doesn't always mean safe.
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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

actually it has been 6 days. and since I turned it on this morning i have had ringing in my ears that wasn't there prior to turning it on.

Psychological, I doubt it.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

The doctor gave me a sugar pill during my first visit this year over the headache, It never worked I still had the headache10 cents to a dollar if he had turned off the Wifi at hsi clinic it probably would have went away.

How did I get the headache to go away you may ask.

I have increased my water intake to 16 oz of water every four hours (or over a 4 hour period). it left the first day of this regime but then other affects like the vertigo with a headache started. Water did not work for vertigo I had to ride those out eventually after about 10 hours the subsided.

I will keep shutting off the Wifi for now I believe it helps


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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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I believe it is the physical exposure to the RF signaling that causes most of the problems not necessarily the Signaling itself.

The signal in and of itself is harmless but the physical exposure over a period of time affect the physical nature of the body.

It is much like if you are exposed to loud sounds 24/7 eventually your body does things chemically to protect itself, but eventually the over productions of chemicals to contract the sound leads to more problems health wise.

I bet the WiFi and other RF/HD signaling has the same effect the body, it over produces chemicals to counter it and eventually you are over dosed and it begins to add up and cause physical ailments. Seeing it is of lower rates it takes longer and longer times before it manifests itself in a physical condition.


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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Arbitrageur

The doctor gave me a sugar pill during my first visit this year over the headache
Did you know it was a sugar pill or what did you think you were taking?


I will keep shutting off the Wifi for now I believe it helps
That's why sugar pills sometimes work, because people believe they are taking something that will help them. In that case and maybe yours, the belief that something will work may be more important than what you're actually doing. I told you how you can figure out if it's really the Wi-fi but you don't seem interested in finding out. Maybe that's not important as long as your symptoms are better.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

no actually he told me it was a new type of drug for migraines. Only after an hour no change did he tell me it was a placebo, it was a test to see if my headache was psychological. Once he concluded it was not he sent me to an ENT for further testing $$ out of my pocket that didn't work. The doctor charged me $88 for that sugar pill.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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Arbi, thanks I understand your point.

Did you read my last post on it being the effects to exposure and not the signal itself?


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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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I figure that if we give our physical bodies rest from it by limiting exposure altogether or getting that exposure to the lowest possible levels it will help.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Coal and oil burning emission causes cancer, but i guess we accept it because its a valuable commodity, same with
powerful radiowaves they might cause cancer but........to valuable.



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