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reply posted on 11-2-2005 @ 12:33 AM by saukrates420
I tend to believe it isn't fake. One because of the sheer size of the creature. Two because of the anatomical features of this creature, it's forearms are far too long and big to be a human's. Thirdly, closeups on the creature's face show a legitimate face, not a mask or makeup. Another reason to believe it's a true creature are it's legs, I have never seen a suit that could replicate huge muscle movements as effectively as that. If it is a man in a ape suit, it must be somewhere inbetween the size of Shaquille O'Neal and that Bigshow wrestler. The stabilization does nothing for me, since if a bipedal ape does exist it's method of walking would be much the same as our own. So thats so much for the stabilization, it doesn't prove anything except that it's bipedal walking method is much like our own, which one could expect if we are dealing with a bipedal ape. Also if you do a closeup of the feet they look simply too real and large to be fakes. You can't see any lines or seams that would constitute a suit or fake feet. This thing in is legitimate in my honest opinion. Anatomists all over the world have looked at this film and all of them have concluded that it's walking pattern is consistent with a real animal. Lastly the mammory glands on this thing looked quite proportional with the creature, and not alot of suits would include such a thing. Not to say they couldn't be included in a suit, but in my mind it looks nothing like a man in a suit. I'd like to think people can tell between a man in a suit and a real creature, especially at relative close distances as in the Patterson/Grimlin film.

It doesn't take a genius to look at this footage and realize it's no person in a suit. Mainly for it's anatomical size and swaying of the arms. I've never met a person who could fill out a 7 1/2 - 8 Feet tall suit with 400-500 lbs to go with it. I don't fully understand why zoologists and scientists reject the footage. Grimlin has contested to it's authenticity from the time it was made till the day he dies, which he is quoted as saying. We already know that's exactly how adament Patterson was since he proclaimed it's authenticity all the way to his deathbed. As for Patterson's family claiming it was a hoax, I think that's a rouse. I wouldn't believe it until I saw them saying as such and as far as I know nobody has footage of them mouthing those words.


reply posted on 27-2-2005 @ 11:31 PM by EmbryonicEssence
Originally posted by saukrates420
... The stabilization does nothing for me, since if a bipedal ape does exist it's method of walking would be much the same as our own. So thats so much for the stabilization, it doesn't prove anything except that it's bipedal walking method is much like our own, which one could expect if we are dealing with a bipedal ape...


There has been some known cases of bipedal walking apes. Oliver the "humanzee" is just one. He has been walking upright ever since he was found - he was not trained to walk upright like some chimpanzees have been. Most primates who are tought to walk upright become tired fairly fast... not Oliver. He even looks eerily human in his mannerisms, and facial expressions. Although he has been proven not to have human DNA as many have thought, he does have one part of his DNA that is different from other Chimpanzees. They had an interesting show about him on the History channel, TLC, or Discovery (I can't remember which) - titled (appropriately) "Humanzee." There is also a thread on ATS about it... somewhere.

Here is a good link about him:
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Also, I remember reading a while ago (an article on CNN) about a woman who had found a tribe of these bipedal chimps in Africa, and she was going to go document them. I haven't read or heard anything about since. :-/

Well, I for one think BigFoot probably exists. There are still too many things in this world left undiscovered (despite what most people may believe). Earth is abundant with mysteries. How often do you see mountain lions, other than the news (or zoo)? Remember, a smart creature will actively avoid humans - you won't know they're there.


reply posted on 8-4-2007 @ 02:58 AM by beckjord
Originally posted by instar
Originally posted by d1k
First off Instar, you're doing a miserable job if you're trying to debunk this, you really sound like you're reaching in a lot of your posts, it also seems you are trying too hard.

Secondly I watched a special on Discovery just a couple months ago in which they showed this footage. Strange they did not say it was proven a fake long ago, in fact they said it was one of the best footage that shows a living unknown species alive today.

One of the biggest points they made was that no human on Earth walks with his knees constantly bent like that, they also determined the size of the ape as 8+ feet tall. There was other points but these were some of the more notable ones. So we have a guy in a suit in the 50s or 70s? which ever it really does not matter, maintaining a funky walk with bent knees that towers at 8+ feet?

There are lots of good arguments on Bigfoots exisiting and not existing, please save us from your Judge Judy shamble of a debunk.


LMFAO Buddy you and others can beleive whatever you like. I started this thread to state my disbeleif based on my observations after veiving the antishake vid. I.E I think its BS. I have no need to debunk it, I already disbeleive its genuine. Every other post since the original is neither here or there, Im merely pointing out my observations in return.
Your childish angry insults will not change my mind. Something clearly irreffutable might.



REPLY FROM bECKJORD:

Anti-shake is meaningless. I view the film frame-by-frame under a microscope. 99% of you have never even touched a microscope.

I also stabilized it in 1976, and nothing fake got shaken out.


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