a reply to: rtb1234
You seem to know a lot, but I feel the need to share something with you.
Living 'ecologically', is all about paying attention to what exists around you. What value do we want to bring to the world we relate with? The
cognitive scientist George Lakoff points out that fear and empathy (or compassion) activate mutually inhibiting networks in the brain (this has been
experimentally demonstrated with fMRI), so that when were exposed to a 'fear' word, or image, action or vocal sound, our brain becomes activated to
respond to the world with reference to pre-existing
evolutionary modules, or habits "embodied" as physical neural structure (proteins, nucleic
acids, fats, sugar etc) which, as studiously explained by the biochemist Nick Lane, themselves represent STABLE thermodynamic states.
We should - and can never - let go of the awareness of thermodynamics, lest we allow ourselves to fall into this:
What should we pay attention to? When we think, we should be far more concerned with epistemology - that is, in how we think
- than with
ontology ((or how we assume, or reduce, the world when we make propositional statements). This is why I give evolutionary theory precedence in all my
thinking. All around us exists an organic world that follows thermodynamic laws. Only in a state of 'dynamic equilibrium' can an organism persist to
reproduce itself. Notice the logic in this thought: we assume 'life', only after physical matter has found a positive feedback that operates through
the logic of quantum-chemical reactions. This means 'stability' precedes life. Life emerges, and evolves, from a state of physical stability.
Throughout your post I saw some interesting ideas, but I was also a little "off-out", that is, physiologically activated, by the manner in which
you communicate yourself
. If you understand systems theory (and I imagine you may know much about it) then you should know that the physical
'boundedness' of our brain, and the psychological openness of our minds, means that we are always unconsciously "linked" to the world around us, which
unconsciously activates parts (or what the UCLA neuroscientist joaquin Fuster calls 'perception-action' cycles in the brain, themselves "sentineled"
by the relevance detection of the amygdala) of our personal history
For me, psychoanalysis is the highest science. When people become too idealistic, too hyper-aroused by their own ideas, they often fall into
"dissociation". What I called idealization, is what the brain does
. We have a whole pre-history before the emergence of our self-awareness.
Keep this in mind: the parts we need to control are the parts which have been shaped by evolutionary exigencies: throughout our being, and in our
minds, lies tendencies towards dissociation of contents that interfere with our personal needs
in the moment.
If you even register a feeling of shame, or anger, or impatience, or irritation, you have it within your being to be selfish, and intolerant, of the
other. I have a lot of this in me: but I try my darndest to be aware of it! The same cannot be said for the majority of people, which is not quite
their fault either. The mind, as said, is 'compartmentalized' an naturally dissociative. Different situations (ecological contexts) can draw out of us
certain ways of being, or certain 'selves'. This is because there is an evolutionary 'logic' in our construction that gives precedence to biological
functioning over psychological well-being. I want to emphasize that this is basic neuroscience - from my own field, traumatology - which has been
experimentally demonstrated, as well as seen in any person who has suffered early life abuse.
Psychoanalysis - or paying attention to our psychodynamics, with reference to evolutionary (adaptive) logic, allows us to monitor ourselves so that we
don't get carried away in our statements, assertions, or unconsciously enact actions designed to sustain positive affective states.
Nothing you have written strikes me as wrong, and in fact, I'm sure you have very many interesting views on things.
However, I feel you are allowing yourself to communicate in ways that necessarily
activate unconscious programs in other peoples brains. Which,
I wish to stress, is not an ecological way of existing vis-a-vis other sentient creatures.
I do not write this with any desire to denigrate you, but just as a mindful reminder, said with as much awareness as I can muster about the way the
world can make us self-organize, that you would be much more effective in your communications if you resisted, for example, describing something I've
written as "simplistic" - knowing, of course, what kind of unconscious frames (feelings, since it suggests something negative about me) will be
activated in me.
It's important to care about these things. If an 'earth mind' exists, it probably depends on our understanding the way we relate to one another - how
we affect one another; and perhaps this process of "self-discovery" or "mind discovery", is all about realizing how evolutionary processes have
Finally, we are people, with personal histories, and so 'history' should always take precedence in our thinking when we make assertions about things.
What we need to pay attention to is how other people affect us. Because our brains, and our minds, were themselves constructed out of evolutionary
dynamics that turned the "other" - whom we were unconsciously seeking an interest in - to become internalized within us as the 'subject-object'
It was through empathy, or the emotion of "connection", that the mind emerged. However, we still have a "reptilian" brain that motivates primitive
behaviors - such as getting away from what harms us and seeking advantages for the organism. This logic, it needs to be emphasized, is built in us at
the most basic, neuronal level. Neurons self-organize in these ways. And the brain stem-vagus network, in particular, is the part that organizes
primitive body-brain homeostasis, with the 'self' as being primary and the 'other', a mere object which we can project our needs upon.
These two diagrams attempt to explain how the intrauterine-2 year period forms a fundamental 'background' upon which later-life mental functioning
The point is, always be aware and concerned with the other, otherwise your attempts to communicate your knowledge will unconsciously be dissociated,
because the speaker didn't apply the fundamental logic of word-brain-affect processes in framing our perception of things.
edit on 14-12-2015
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