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Help me out with this classic hip-hop song! New Yorkers especially

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posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 09:23 PM
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Always loved the sound of this track, and overall I think I get the jist of the story, but actually looked up the lyrics the other day, and after the first verse I'm a bit lost.


Obviously the first verse Jody is made out to be a bit of a prude/goldigger, so the guy goes for other girls etc.


Towards the middle I'm not sure what exactly is going on, if it's about loaning money, or a pimp reference with the "20-40-60 pay me back" line.

At the end it seems maybe someone finally bought her a ring, and she ends up cheating on him anyway.


I guess a good bit of 80's NY slang understanding would help!






Jody got a cat but she won't let it out
Oh, tough luck, 'cause it makes Jack pout
Waiting on the wins he moves to the next
Searching for the cheese, looking for the text

In the Big Blue, in search of the skins
Grinning and laughing, laughing and grinning
Padlock Jody got the whole scene played
No knockin' boots till she's 14K'd

Diamond in the back, sunroof top
Waiting for the credit card so she can go and shop
Jack plays the back, just knockin' other socks
'Cause now in the hood he's 'Johnny The Fox'

Till one ring came, Jody blew a spark
Found about Jody round the corner in the park
Flipping like a dipstick, hip to the news
Practicing the range, bellowing the blues

Jack rolls the carpet in, swift like a skate
Yo, Jody, yo, gotta go, got a date
Padlock Jody's screaming, "Wait, wait, wait"
"Don't worry, hon," he replies, "I'm keepin' the faith"

I'll never do the baseball with you again
Yo, I'll never do the baseball with you
'Cause your hoochie-coo was so smooth
Was it such a sin to let, let me in?

Hooked by your ever-so-shyness
Want that bush, heard you're from Flatbush
Ran after ya, caught ya
Brought ya to Long Island, stylin' for a while

In my hut, I was on a cut for a peck, a silly Greg Peck
You tried to play me new, Plug One you disconnect
I'd try to touch your hair, you would say no
Yo, I'd try to touch your hair, you would say no

Is it 'cause you want my financial flaunt?
First you gotta please me, nice and easy
But I guess you want that in reverse
So I stand Plug First can see

We got a serious block
Turn the other way, ooh, what do I spot?
A hoopin' Hey Love whose scent left a trace
Had a stash in her pocket with a body that's safe

Ball to the eight, now you wanna swing?
Forget the rap, yo, Black Sheep, sing

You're banned, you're banned
You're banned, honey dip, you're banned
You're banned, you're banned

Ya banned by the preacher man
You played yourself a stew
Now to me you step, never mind love
The faith is being kept

Now remember 'bout Padlock Jody, here's the fact
Jack little wick but she was acting wack
Jack wanna lay but laying ain't exact
For the past four or five she was banned by the pack

Hip to the witness, putting on a plan
No money, no more Puddy Tat for the man
Jack knows that honey means playing a game
Only wanna bowl, got nabbed for the fame, goddamn

Sam was the man that you planned to command
Nothing new about a neighborhood
You know what? Padlock Jody wanna cut
Jack's thinking cap, make mine into a pack

Yo, here's twenty, forty, sixty, pay me back
Conscience appears, "Yo Jack, what you doing?"
You play the cold while honey here's cooling?
You don't have to if you don't want to
You don't have to if you don't want to"

So he begins with the ring, ring, ring
"Hey, Judy girl, how ya doin'
Seen you with another man, what you doing, screwing?
Ooh, shame on you, what, you can't wait
For the big bait, well, I'm ma tell you straight
Honey child, I'm keepin' the faith"



PS, this is what I consider REAL hip-hop; just a fun song with an actual story and beat you can really get into. No violence, drugs, fame, narcissism etc that saturates modern 'hip-hop'



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: 8675309jenny
PS, this is what I consider REAL hip-hop; just a fun song with an actual story and beat you can really get into. No violence, drugs, fame, narcissism etc that saturates modern 'hip-hop'


The irony is the song is about drugs and the narcissism of Jack who is a player as for jody she won't put out and she's a gold digger

Modern day hip hop just puts everything out there in your face, old school was more subtle using slang to cover up the same themes for unsuspecting listeners, I love the old school stuff don't get me wrong but they rapped about the same stuff back then as they do today (drugs, women, money and being gangsters) there are some political rarities though like NWA and f the police



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: Discotech

originally posted by: 8675309jenny
PS, this is what I consider REAL hip-hop; just a fun song with an actual story and beat you can really get into. No violence, drugs, fame, narcissism etc that saturates modern 'hip-hop'


The irony is the song is about drugs and the narcissism of Jack who is a player as for jody she won't put out and she's a gold digger

Modern day hip hop just puts everything out there in your face, old school was more subtle using slang to cover up the same themes for unsuspecting listeners, I love the old school stuff don't get me wrong but they rapped about the same stuff back then as they do today (drugs, women, money and being gangsters) there are some political rarities though like NWA and f the police



Not really though. He's telling a story, not singing it in first-person.

I cant tell you how many recent rap songs I've heard say "I make what you make in a year, in 1 day", or "look at me, I got money, I got cars, I got b!tches" etc etc etc

So many modern hiphop artists are completely driven by extreme insecurity and a lack of ever feeling acknowledged for anything. Hate of their parents, or teachers, or society in general for always holding them down, or never giving them a pat on the back, or just saying 'hey, you're worth something'.

Anyway that gets into a lot of the psychology that I feel is responsible for the current state of things in our nation, but as far as music goes, blatant innuendo is rife in 50's-80's rock music as well, especially 70's rock! And I appreciate every genre of music really.


If there's a drug reference in the song, I definitely missed it, can you explain ?

EDIT: Oh, the stash and eight-ball reference.... how did I miss that? Haha
edit on 28-11-2015 by 8675309jenny because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: 8675309jenny

Searching for the cheese
Searching for skins

Cheese is a term for strong/nice smelling weed, skins is slang for rolling papers


Had a stash in her pocket with a body that's safe

Stash is slang for drugs

A lot of 2 Pac and Notorious BIG songs have hidden meanings too, mainly about East Coast vs West Coast fighting that was going on between the rappers and gangs



posted on Nov, 29 2015 @ 12:55 AM
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Don't put De La in the same camp as gangster grooves. Still some of the best of the bunch...

"I can safely say I've never played a sister by touching where her private parts reside.
I've always walked the right side of the road. If I wasn't making song I wouldn't be a thug selling drugs, but a man with a plan"



posted on Nov, 29 2015 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: Discotech
The irony is the song is about drugs and the narcissism of Jack who is a player as for jody she won't put out and she's a gold digger



No, the song is about the girl Jody.



posted on Nov, 29 2015 @ 06:59 AM
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originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: 8675309jenny

Searching for the cheese
Searching for skins

Cheese is a term for strong/nice smelling weed, skins is slang for rolling papers


Had a stash in her pocket with a body that's safe

Stash is slang for drugs

A lot of 2 Pac and Notorious BIG songs have hidden meanings too, mainly about East Coast vs West Coast fighting that was going on between the rappers and gangs


youre way wrong.
listen to it again. read it. figure out the context or whatever.
searching for the cheese----talking about money. back in the day people used to call money cheese. that kind of evolved into cheddar.
stash of her own----her own money

come on. this is the soul



posted on Nov, 29 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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So anyone with some NY slang knowledge want to lend an interpretation of verses 4-17 ???
edit on 29-11-2015 by 8675309jenny because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 02:41 AM
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-crickets-





posted on Dec, 4 2015 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: 8675309jenny
So anyone with some NY slang knowledge want to lend an interpretation of verses 4-17 ???


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