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Is this responsible? Is this what freedom of speech and political incorrectness looks like? Or is he just another media attention whore and egoistic opportunist?
For most of American history, the courts held that no one has a right to advocate violations of the law. They ruled that advocacy of crime is wholly outside of the First Amendment--akin to a criminal attempt and punishable as such. Indeed, many of the judges revered as the strongest champions of free speech believed that express advocacy of crime was punishable.
In the same period the Supreme Court concluded that government could punish all speech, including advocacy of illegality, that had a "tendency" to encourage illegality.
originally posted by: raymundoko
Probably a dude about to go to jail. As I stated in reply to you earlier what he did is NOT protected by free speech. It is very illegal.
First, the speaker must promote not just any lawless action but "imminent" lawless action. Second, the imminent lawless action must be "likely" to occur. Third, the speaker must intend to produce imminent lawless action ("directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action").
Denise Speller, manager at a nearby haircut salon, said she heard roughly 10-20 gunshots in the span of less than five minutes. She said she saw a police cruiser and two officers outside near Chase Bank, not far from the Planned Parenthood facility. One of the officers appeared to fall to the ground and the other office knelt down to render aid, then tried to get the officer to safety behind the car, she said. Another officer told Speller to seek shelter inside the building.
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: ~Lucidity
No, this is a thread where we can say a guy who went into a planned parent hood, and didn't shoot anyone in the planned parent hood (except for the one guy who ran in there from the parking lot who was not associated with Planned Parenthood), was obviously targeting the planned parent hood...
Yes, this started in the parking lot of a planned parenthood. It is a parking lot shared by several businesses.
A shooting that started with him standing in the parking lot shooting at motorists until police showed up, then killed the police and retreated to a building for cover.