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It is most important to note that when President Hollande declared a state of war with ISIS, he deliberately chose to invoke Article 42.7 of the Lisbon Treaty, not Article V of the NATO treaty. Article 42.7 is the “solidarity clause” that states if a member of the European Union is the victim of “armed aggression on its territory,” other EU member states have an “obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power.” In essence, France chose to work within a European framework, without formally drawing in NATO and the U.S. direction that would entail.
originally posted by: intrptr
They've had to rename the enemy (ISIS become Daesh),
originally posted by: intrptr
Now the Russians are directly involved, so the hesitant EU needed a terror infusion to get back on board.
originally posted by: intrptr
Secret meetings between Obama and Hollande are secret because they don't want anyone hearing their plotting to overthrow Syria together.
Are you suggesting France was behind its own terror attack?
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: intrptr
Except for the fact its not NATO trying to remove assad. Im not sure why you insist on repeating that falsehood.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: CIAGypsyMakes you wonder what the world picture will look like by the time that happens.
My guess would be what Europe looked like under Neville Chamberlain.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: CIAGypsyMakes you wonder what the world picture will look like by the time that happens.
My guess would be what Europe looked like under Neville Chamberlain.
God you really want world war 3 dont you?
I am guessing you have your own bunker to keep you safe when the world goes to #.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: CIAGypsyMakes you wonder what the world picture will look like by the time that happens.
My guess would be what Europe looked like under Neville Chamberlain.
God you really want world war 3 dont you?
I am guessing you have your own bunker to keep you safe when the world goes to #.
That's amusing. That's exactly what Chamberlain got us.
Want peace? Prepare for war...
They are far from secret.... And the article already theorized that Putin will get rid of Assad to placate the EU and ME, just not his government….
If it was to be done in historical order then many might agree but you have the Israel question ...pre 67 borders anyone ????
That sounds like something that could work quite well. Its obvious that the post war borders as drawn up by the European powers after WWI are entirely unworkable. For one thing, as suggested, this would provide an opportunity to restore Kurdistan, but that would mean having to seriously kick some Turkish butt to force them to agree to giving up some property.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: CIAGypsyMakes you wonder what the world picture will look like by the time that happens.
My guess would be what Europe looked like under Neville Chamberlain.
God you really want world war 3 dont you?
I am guessing you have your own bunker to keep you safe when the world goes to #.
That's amusing. That's exactly what Chamberlain got us.
Want peace? Prepare for war...
No one will win WW3
We are not in 1939, Russia, USA,Israel,UK,France and China are not pointing conventional weapons at each other.
If WW3 breaks we ALL LOSE.
Therefore WW3 is to be avoided at all costs!
Unless i see Russian tanks pouring through Poland action against Russia needs to be economic ONLY.
National pride and geopolitical squabbling is not worth turning all our countrys into radioactive craters.