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originally posted by: Masterjaden
... before the US got involved, the UK was getting their ASSes handed to them. The air raids on your country were destroying your country's moral and you were losing...
originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: tsurfer2000h
You're really doing a disservice to military here... You do NOT sign an agreement to obey any and all orders.
Please stop disparaging all service members with your bull#e....
Jaden
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: tsurfer2000h
You're really doing a disservice to military here... You do NOT sign an agreement to obey any and all orders.
Please stop disparaging all service members with your bull#e....
Jaden
You sign an agreement which changes your rights. You no longer fall under the Constitution you bind yourself to UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE. Under this code killing civilians isn't illegal if performed in the act of a law full order. What cannot be done is a direct attack on civilian population with the only intent to be to cause mass casualties. By the very nature of UCMJ assigning a target makes them a military target. There is nothing illegal about droane strikes in UCMJ and nothing even Congress can do. Military purposefully doesn't fall under civilian laws because for one they are required to kill. In a civilian court they could end up in prison.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Masterjaden
... before the US got involved, the UK was getting their ASSes handed to them. The air raids on your country were destroying your country's moral and you were losing...
What "history" books did you learn from?
The battle of Britain (which we WON) ended on31 October 1940
That more or less put a stop to the German Invasion of the UK and rendered there air force a shambles.
Our Royal navy was in tact and no idea were you get your idea Moral was in shambles? Source? The bombing just pissed us off more with Germany!
We likely could not have liberated mainland Europe on our own. But we were certainly not losing or at risk of Germans invading by December 1941. Worse it would have ended in a draw with a negotiated peace.
USA played a major part, but it was no more major than the UK or Russia. None of us likely would have "won" the 100% victory without the other. Why cant you Americans just accept it was a ALLIED victory? Why do you feel the need to piss on the graves of the British that died in equal numbers with equal effort along side you Americans?
I would say your You perspective is a tad skewed and certainly hollywood/American centric.
Pick up a REAL history book, you would be smarter for it.
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: stevieray
You have to be the most ignorant, derptastic(yes I invented that word for you), patronising person on ATS!
You cant honestly believe that yanky doodle bull#?
You must be trolling?
Heaviest lifting? In world war 2 the uK lost just as many men as you and were in the war over two years longer than you! The russians had single battles bigger than the entire european theatre throughout the war! Sure you did heavy lifting but tge USA was certainly not the only country doing heavy lifting!
Help Cuba and vietnam? YOU #ING DESTROYED THOSE COUNTRYS!
World's adults? The UK has duck houses older than your country!
originally posted by: stevieray
Doesn't change the fact that the euros get themselves into their own end times every 30 years or so.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: stevieray
I have lost all respect for you.
You blindly defend police brutality, defend drone strikes that clearly violate the Geneva convention, and your bigotry is clear after you rant about gay rights.
People like you are the problem here in the US.
Drone strikes that kill un armed civilians is a war crime and these Airmen did the honorable thing.
For the record, I was a Petty Officer in the US Navy.
originally posted by: stevieray
I like the yankee doodle thing :
Yankee Doodle went to the pub to kick the old brit's ass, when he kept demanding things. Then a few years later was nice enough to save him from an ass-whooping from the nasty old german. Twice, even. Saved him yet again a little later, from the old russian fellow about to stick a knife in his back.
Fast forward to the now reeaallllly old brit shuffling down the pike, crying that a mob of muslim teens are chasing him.
Wooop....here's old Yankee Doodle to help out, again.....
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: dragonridr
The Doctor's Without Borders strike is ok in accordance with the Geneva Convention?
Many more examples out there.
Clearly War Crimes have been committed. These airman have a moral backbone and it takes a hell of a lot more courage than pulling a trigger to do what they did and stand up for what is right.