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How Turkey Exports ISIS Oil To The World: The Scientific Evidence

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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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I don’t want to quote too much from this article but its pretty good but extensive reading

www.zerohedge.com...



On November 16, in a highly publicized effort, US warplanes destroyed 116 ISIS oil trucks in Syria. 45 minutes prior, leaflets were dropped advising drivers (who Washington is absolutely sure are not ISIS members themselves) to “get out of [their] trucks and run away.”




The peculiar thing about the US strikes is that it took The Pentagon nearly 14 months to figure out that the most effective way to cripple Islamic State’s oil trade is to bomb... the oil.




"Turkey has played a key role in facilitating the life-blood of ISIS’ expansion: black market oil sales. Senior political and intelligence sources in Turkey and Iraq confirm that Turkish authorities have actively facilitated ISIS oil sales through the country. Last summer, Mehmet Ali Ediboglu, an MP from the main opposition, the Republican People’s Party, estimated the quantity of ISIS oil sales in Turkey at about $800 million—that was over a year ago. By now, this implies that Turkey has facilitated over $1 billion worth of black market ISIS oil sales to date."


This is the key to this whole issue, how ISISI gets its funds and supports its barbarism in plain sight and the US and NATO does nothing substantial to stop it.


Thank God for the Alt media. This article may give us perspective on why France is closing down alt sites.

The US media as the article reminds is all but avoiding this reality of Turkey supporting ISIS



But even as Turkey's ties to the ISIS oil trade have been hiding in plain sight for the better part of two years, the Western media largely ignores the issue (or at least the scope of it and the possible complicity of the Erdogan government) because after all, Turkey is a NATO member.


I call this another EYES WIDE SHUT Caper

Where they do conspicuous evil before our eyes and its ignored by the sheep in America.

It’s clear European people have been much more astute in terms of accepting reality that may be why Europe is under direct attack by ISIS and the US is not.

The people in America are the stupidest voters in the world, just look at the fact that the next president will be either Trump or Hillary!

The devil or Satan

Who can do any worst than that?

www.zerohedge.com...

Somehow this has got to penetrate the MSM


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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I thought it was the Russians that bombed the oil tankers not the US.. But apart from the that its spot on the oil is being transported through Turkey.
Turkey is pro isis it helps keep the Kurds inline



snf
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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I was wondering how The terrs got the oil out of Syria and got paid of it. They move it through a NATO country (Turkey).


This is the key to this whole issue, how ISISI gets its funds and supports its barbarism in plain sight and the US and NATO does nothing substantial to stop it.

Ever consider its supposed to be happening as part of NATO operations to topple Syria?

It is only since footage from Russian airstrikes showing columns of fuel trucks sitting openly in the desert getting destroyed by the Russians that the west has had to backpedal with huh, what? Now we find out they are shipping the stuff through Turkey.

Just like the Russians know where it crosses the border and were bombing a convoy when they got shot down by NATO jets, US and Turkey agencies know the stuff is coming across, too.

Kind of removes the doubt about who is funding ISIS.
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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

I was wondering how The terrs got the oil out of Syria and got paid of it. They move it through a NATO country (Turkey).



ISIS sells oil as an extension of their criminality. Smugglers do not represent the authorities.

Iran, Iraq and Jordan are in on the criminality, alongside Turkey.

www.theguardian.com...

It seems that the Russian propaganda machine is attempting to slur Turkey, but in fact the truth is less one-sided.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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ISIS sells oil as an extension of their criminality. Smugglers do not represent the authorities.

Lol, tell that to the Turks, the US and NATO. As if they don't patrol every inch. You don't "smuggle" a hundred semi tractors filled with oil across a border without someone noticing. Then what about the refinery and docks they drive up to? Nobody goes wheres the bill of lading, customs clearance and permits to transit flammable chemicals, across international borders??


A bill of lading (sometimes abbreviated as B/L or BoL) is a document issued by a carrier which details a shipment of merchandise and gives title of that shipment to a specified party.


Source



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 05:42 PM
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Great read, and very interesting.
I heard and read some about the oil transfers,
but never went to deep into it(just don't have the time)


@Willtell: Yes, extensive read, have to finish it later...



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 06:07 PM
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But the USA and Europe need cheap oil to fund their wars and to keep the Saudi's in check.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: intrptr

I was wondering how The terrs got the oil out of Syria and got paid of it. They move it through a NATO country (Turkey).



ISIS sells oil as an extension of their criminality. Smugglers do not represent the authorities.

Iran, Iraq and Jordan are in on the criminality, alongside Turkey.

www.theguardian.com...

It seems that the Russian propaganda machine is attempting to slur Turkey, but in fact the truth is less one-sided.

I have sympathy with that but then, that's a year ago. What I have difficulty in believing is that no authorities have a part in this, indeed it shows the the capitalist system is alive and strong everywhere, and where needs be, is as fundamental as any fundamental..something or other cheat sheet, take your pick, that doesn't mean they all wear suits.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

A quote from the same article



But even as Turkey's ties to the ISIS oil trade have been hiding in plain sight for the better part of two years, the Western media largely ignores the issue (or at least the scope of it and the possible complicity of the Erdogan government) because after all, Turkey is a NATO member.


This is simply bull, it was already reported in the news in Europe last year (date of article, Oct 20 2014) so the following quote,..



Erdogan's move to shoot down a Russian Su-24 near the Syrian border on Tuesday prompted an angry Vladimir Putin to throw Turkey under the ISIS oil bus for the entire world to see.


is simply also not true because it was already known.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 07:16 PM
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Contrary to what some have said, I have always felt the powers know how and where the oil is being marketed. Energy is big business, big money. It's another thing pointing to the BS about this whole war on terrorism.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 03:22 AM
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originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Willtell

I thought it was the Russians that bombed the oil tankers not the US.. But apart from the that its spot on the oil is being transported through Turkey.
Turkey is pro isis it helps keep the Kurds inline



snf


Weren't the Russians complaining, that the US was taking credit for some of their actions? They have a history of it, as in WWII.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 03:29 AM
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originally posted by: earthling42

This is simply bull, it was already reported in the news in Europe last year (date of article, Oct 20 2014) so the following quote,..



And that means, that it is a corner pillar in the argument that the west is behind ISIS ... it has been ignored, and even today it is being downplayed and Erdogan being "defended".



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 04:15 AM
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You don't win a war by shooting left and right at random. First thing to do is to cut supply line. Assad control the East of Syria making ISIS effectively land locked. Then from where ISIS got it's ressources?

I don't think generals at NATO are stupid enough to ignore these facts. Then why the Russians are the first to candidly do what need to be done, attacking the suplies lines?

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posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 07:34 AM
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Some more details. Main destinations according to this article are at least surprising (or not).

GR

Let me be clear: Such large scale operation can not simply be unnoticed by authorities of many executive branches of many countries involved. It is not possible that such operation is working without supervision and probably direct interest of at least some part of Turkish government and its allies.: i.e. at least some NATO countries and Israel.
We are fed by BS all the time but this is probably too much. This will need spin like centrifuge for uranium enrichment have.

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posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 07:49 AM
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I don’t want to quote too much from this article but its pretty good but extensive reading


So your scientific evidence comes from the source zerohedge...and their scientific evidence is a statistical anomaly, well then it has to be true if a scientific anomaly says it is.


No, it can't be categorical and frankly, if the authors claimed to have discovered indisputable proof, we would be immediately skeptical. What they have done however, is identify a statistical anomaly and develop a plausible theory to explain it.


I also find this to be very interesting...the sources.


Now that we can add what looks like quantitative evidence that ISIS oil is shipped from Turkey to the voluminous qualitative evidence supplied by ex-Turkish lawmakers, investigative reporters, and the Russian government (to name just a few sources), we can now proceed to consider one final question: where does the crude that helps to fund Bakr al-Baghdadi's caliphate ultimately end up? More on that over the weekend.


Ex Turkish law makers, investigative reporters(unnamed of course), and the best ...the Russian government. SO obviously this theory must be true if the Russian government and unnamed investigative reporters say so.

And the best is what this little comment says...


The authors of this paper would like to make it clear from the very beginning that this has not been the case of a ‘smoking gun’. The evidence has been inconclusive.


Which means there is nothing to back this claim whatsoever.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 07:53 AM
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Some more details. Main destinations according to this article are at least surprising (or not).



Care to provide something that doesn't parrot anything that is anti west with some actual credible reporting?

Global research is as credible as RT and PressTV when it comes to anything involving the west. Which means they aren't a real good source for the truth.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

May I ask you for five element list of "... credible ... source[s] for the truth."? Thank you very much.

Add:

And if you are in it, please, what are your opinions on this questions:

1. is ISIS exporting oil from "its" territories?
2. if so, through which countries and by which ways is this oil exported?
3. where is this oil destination(s)?
4. is possible, that nobody from "West" noticed?



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posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 08:07 AM
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Ummm...perhaps that's the real reason for the $1.87 gas here...eh...?

from isissies to turkey to nato to usa...ad nauseam...



YouSir



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: JanAmosComenius
1. is ISIS exporting oil from "its" territories?
2. if so, through which countries and by which ways is this oil exported?
3. where is this oil destination(s)?
4. is possible, that nobody from "West" noticed?



The fact that ISIS has been using oil to fund their "state" has been known and reported for some time. It's only since Russia and Turkish relations have gone through the floor that Turkey has suddenly become this "terrorist" supporting state. All helped by what we all know as the highly effective Russian propaganda machine whose message is parroted robot-like across the internet. Remember the massive effort to paint Ukraine as a Nazi state? Now it's Turkey are the "terrorist funders". Are people so blind they cannot see the trend here?

To answer your points in turn.

1. Yes, ISIS is exporting, or rather smuggling oil across all their borders, not just into Turkey.
2. Oil is reported to find its way across all these porous borders, notably Iraq, Jordan, Turkey and into Iran. There are several studies to show this.
3. The oil destination is as above. It probably finds its way into main-stream refining and through corruption and criminality rather than government intervention.
4. Everyone has noticed. It has been reported upon for months. Just because some people on ATS have not looked, does not mean that it has not been widely reported.

There, done.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 09:49 AM
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OK, everything reasonable with few more questions.
1. It is not very efficient to import crude to Iran which have its own troubles with export - sometimes capitalism is just magical.
2. This export and almost ALL export have to go either through Turkey or Iraq, Just look at ISIS controlled territory and where main production sites are.
2.a. Turkey is NATO ally pretty well capable (but unwilling?) to control its boarders.
2.b. Iraq is ... uhhh ... puppet state in civil war? OK - you are right, Iraq is porous.
2.c. Those convoys are probably pretty simple targets. How is it possible that such important supply road is not permanently attacked by supposed enemies of ISIS? It is not easy nor cheap to get truck with tank suitable for desert conditions in a war zone. Few destroyed convoys and flow is interrupted at least for few weeks with significant financial and logistic troubles for our enemy. If such effort is underway (I didn't noticed): Where the Hell those trucks are emanating from?



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