posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 11:14 AM
I've got Only answers,will that do Doc...
I am really very honored to have you on board Doc...you point is taken !!
Now research THIS !!
Thanks for your reply. But really, Zionism has been a tremendous failure in the human rights area, and the history of the modern Israeli state is less
than noble- a Jewish state at the expense of Palestinian Arabs for disenfranchised European Jews, whose suffering has lost all moral relevance becasue
of the suffering they themselves inflicted on those they choose to displace.. They have fought so hard in this country to ensure that religious groups
cannot force their beliefs on to other people, that they should not support the seizure of Arab lands and "settlements" for Zionist ideology. Nope-
modern Israel is a step backward into a time long vanished whose only relevance today is as an example of religious extremism and militancy gone
astray for religious ends that only G-d can himself can ordain- not Theordore Herzel. Zionist militancy and Islamic militancy are the same evil
cloaked in different cloth. Have a nice day protecting "your" relatives, but do not do unto others as you would have them not do unto you.
my 'solution' is the same as I set out above - and that is for America and Israel to pursue a genuine and meaningful dialogue with the Palestinians
- something that I - and a great many others in this world do not believe has so far ever really happend. For this to work, America would have to
weild the considerable influence she has over the Israeli government - by threatening to withold some of the many billions of dollars in military and
ecconomic aid Israel recieves from the US each year. Only when Israel is faced with the prospect of genuine economic sanctions will she ever be really
serious about negotiation. But of course the historical republican lack of interest in the USA (and to a slightly lesser extent among the Democrats
too) in pursuing a genuine settlement between Israel and the Palestinians (due in no small part to the extremely large Jewish lobby within America and
the very real impact they can have on elections) has always and may always continue to get in the way of any such agreement ever becomming viable. You
ask me for an answer, but my question is why are you asking me for an answer when the answer is in your/your government's hands and the hands of the
And your argument can just as easily be turned against you. Why don't we then just tell the Palistinians to get the hell out? Why don't we round
them all up and force them to walk into the sea? Or does that really seem like a viable solution to you? You say that it is not acceptable to
criticise the Israelis - but it is perfectly acceptable to continue to criticise, persecute and kill vast numbers of the Palestinian people? Well that
is to say the least, one hell of a double standard. So I have a question for you - and that is how exactly do you square that? What for a change is
YOUR answer? I can tell you what I think is wrong, I can tell you how I THINK it should be fixed, but really I'm not the one who's going to change
it. For that to happen it would require people like you to genuinely want a solution too and for you to encourage your leaders and those who are in a
postion to influence the outcome to work towards a real and sustanable compromise too.
This isn't all one sided - and history isn't as convienient as many Israelis have painted it. The only possible way forward is through real dialogue
and meaningful compromise.
Without this there will be no solution. Period.
Oh Yeh the land you mentioned is known as Canaan was is situated in the territory of the southern Levant, which today encompasses Israel, the West
Bank and Gaza, Jordan, and the southern portions of Syria and Lebanon. Throughout time, many names have been given to this area including Palestine,
Eretz-Israel, Bilad es-Shem, the Holy Land and Djahy. The earliest known name for this area was "Canaan."
The inhabitants of Canaan were never ethnically or politically unified as a single nation. They did, however, share sufficient similarities in
language and culture to be described together as "Canaanites."
Israel refers to both a people within Canaan and later to the political entity formed by those people. To the authors of the Bible, Canaan is the land
which the tribes of Israel conquered after an Exodus from Egypt and the Canaanites are the people they disposed from this land. The Old Testament of
the Bible (also known as Tanak) is principally concerned with the religious history of Israel in Canaan.