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Two journalists arrested for story on "weapons loaded" intelligence trucks bound for Syria

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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: beansidhe

The first time I started googling Erdogan ( with the suspision of a false flag ) was this bombing
tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com... -to-blame/

Shortly after it was blamed on the PKK, notice how the socialist seemed to be targeted always.
The after this bombing this happened :
socialistpartyscot... land.org.uk/2015/10/12/turkey-double-bombing-at-ankara-peace-demonstration-massacres-over-100/

So its obviously agenda driver, by Erdogan himself.
Also the question no one is asking :

Early this year when the Turkish elections were held, Erdogan party failed big time. The first two weeks he refused to be seen in public because he's party scored so abysmal.

Now with the recent election suddenly he's party get the majority.
Yup, I see an agenda alright.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: Belgianbloke

He used to be the Prime Minister but then last year I think, he became President. The Prime Minister seems to be unable to control him, Erdogan is very much in charge.
He is trying to undo everything Attaturk did for the country, yes the socialists are not Erdogan's friends. My sister was tear gassed by police during the Gezi Park protests.
Gezi Park

There is a lot of talk of rigged elections - Erdogan has an agenda, everyone knows but it is hard to deal with. The reporters in the OP are very brave, I hope they survive this event.
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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: beansidhe

Yeah, so obviously i'm from Belgium, but I thought it was very suspicious the moment I heard on the news Foreign turks would be able to Vote for the elections in Turkey.

I mean, what better way to rig the elections?



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 07:14 AM
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a reply to: Belgianbloke

The Turkish/Kurdish conflict exports himself very well, remember a few years back in Brussels :

Turks, Kurds clash in Brussels after Kurdish cultural centre fire

I wonder if after this incident and the Russian Su-24 plane shot down, the Russians will further beef up their military presence in the area. If the S-400 aren't enough, they may well end up arming the Kurds who never posed any threat to Assad.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

I don't remember this, seem to have missed that.
Regarding the beefing up; Syrian air defense was already notorious, adding the S-400 system to the region... Yeesh.
Putin and Assad might as well call it what it is; a no fly zone.

The thing is, I still don't understand Turkey's agenda. The Russian relations are a huge part of their economy. It just seems like such a foolish move.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: Belgianbloke

It seems like one big game. Erdogan is interested in defeating the PKK - he doesn't want them to be seen as the 'good guys' here. Below is quite a good article which makes sense (to me), but the whole thing is so corrupt and convoluted I'm sure we only have a fraction of the story.


Not only does the pro-Assad alliance now have Russian support firmly on its side, but the international community is no longer focused on defeating the regime – instead, it is concerned with defeating jihadist groups like Isis.

The shift in focus is a significant drawback for Erdogan. Years of support for, and investment in, Islamic fundamentalist groups like Jabhat al-Nusra (Al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria) and Ahrar al-Sham are about to go to waste.

Ankara has played a significant role in allowing Isis and other jihadists to flourish in Syria and the region. Turkey has acquiesced to jihadist groups entering Syria via Turkey as well as their use of Turkey as a transit point for smuggling arms and funds into Syria.

The Kurds in Syria, meanwhile, have established themselves as a reliable Western ally and have created, in the process, an autonomous Kurdish region that has reinvigorated Kurdish nationalism in Turkey and across the region - much to Turkey’s dismay as it continues a brutal military campaign to repress the Kurds.

In other words, Turkey has no interest in the peaceful settlement to the conflict in Syria that world powers are negotiating. As it gets desperate, Turkey will attempt to bring focus back on the Assad regime and reverse the losses it has made both in Syria and geopolitically. The decision to bring down the Russian jet is, therefore, likely to have had other political factors behind it - particularly since the jet, as far as we know, posed no immediate threat to Turkey’s national security.


The Independent



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 08:06 AM
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Turkey is desparate to join EU so it has to do whats it's told to have any hope of getting in.

So America (aka Israel) can tell Erdogan to bend over and take it up the ass and he will comply.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 08:11 AM
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originally posted by: bigyin
Turkey is desparate to join EU so it has to do whats it's told to have any hope of getting in.

So America (aka Israel) can tell Erdogan to bend over and take it up the ass and he will comply.



The more I read into this Erdogan, the more I think it has little to do with the NATO. He's very sensitive to history and I think he's longing to the old days of the Ottoman empire.

He sees himself more as a conqueror.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: InnerPeace2012
Erdogan is a dictator, and there has been fears about his deliberate cracked down on "Freedom of Speech" in Turkey, just like what the French are doing right now.

Turkey: Next stop civil war?





Too true. And he and the west call Assad a bad guy. The hypocrisy is astounding, but so typical these days.

In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

This is not an isolated incident. It is a re-occurring theme in turkey. Pay no mind to anyone who says otherwise, it is what it is, just follow common sense. Reporters are being silenced in turkey one way or another. Luke from we are change alternative media mentioned the death of an American journalist in turkey for exposing stories related to ISIS. Now we have the reporters being arrested for doing something similar.

Both stories are heavily related to one another. 2+2=4. Follow common sense people. Ignore the disfinfo agents that may say otherwise. This story IS real and it is happening. These are the FACTS.

Edit: Like in the story of the OP, she was accused of being a spy. Details below.


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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: Belgianbloke
The more I read into this Erdogan, the more I think it has little to do with the NATO. He's very sensitive to history and I think he's longing to the old days of the Ottoman empire.

He sees himself more as a conqueror.


There is a Russian Empire, Ottoman empire connection here. Crimea was no coincidence, the same goes for the ISIL caliphate
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posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

The truth about ISIS in Sryia is coming out of the woodwork. If peeps want the refugees to stop coming out of Syria then they need to stop sending weapons in.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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In other news... It seems that a son of Erdogan is the one who has been buying DAESH's stolen oil the whole time.

Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President



The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdogan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.

Bilal Erdo?an owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.


His daughter runs a hospital that tends to wounded DAESH fighters very close to the Syrian border.


In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdogan seems hell-bent on toppling.



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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Not true, says Erdogan.


"Shame on you. Those who claim we buy oil from Daesh are obliged to prove it. If not, you are a slanderer," Erdogan told local officials in a speech at the Presidential Palace in Ankara.

"ISIL sells the oil they drill to Assad. To Assad. Talk this over with Assad you support," he added, making a dig at Russia which has sided with al-Assad to the consternation of many in the West. Putin claims to be targeting IS, but Turkey says Russian bombers have been bombing the Turkmen militia trying to fight al-Assad.


International Business Times

I vaguely wondered who was buying from Is's oilfields. Assad seems so unlikely; could you be political enemies and yet maintain business? The US put sanctions on Assad apparently for buying Is's oil. Or is Erdogan just trying to divert attention from his own family?



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 12:48 PM
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Even more on that: it's reputed the arms shipments were payments for the ISIS oil smuggling operation.

Russia: Erdogan’s Son Real ISIS Oil Minister, Behind Su24 Shoot Down

Ankara's oil business with ISIS

Erdogan’s Dirty Dangerous ISIS Games

Does it go further than that? The trucks making up some of the support trucks used in the convoys to transport the smuggled oil have ties to the US state department. (source)



posted on Nov, 27 2015 @ 06:07 PM
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Here's a funny twist from the U.S. State Dept:

State Dept. comments on arrest of journalists

I had to laugh when I saw that. Someone from the State Dept. is getting in a mild dig, in my opinion. I wonder if this is the beginning of a trend, as in Erdogan will be dropped like a hot potato soon by the U.S. Gov. because he's being exposed for his duplicity and the U.S is being implicated in working with him to finance terrorists, or it's just a minor thing born by some in the State Dept. who never supported Erdogan from the beginning.
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posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 05:26 AM
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If the US government and european union are not stupid At this stage they can still sacrifise Eroden and other Turkish officials and claim that they were tricked into supplying isis though corrupt Turkish officials.If they keep on defending eroden and his currupt government they will eventually lose all credibility as many in the west already have huge suppicions that ISIS is getting weapons though turkey as this is all over the alternative media and is very logical to many people. They can also let Russia destroy isis and this will go away for most people. A regime change in Turkey would also keep Russians satisfied.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 05:32 AM
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It seems Erdogan is stepping up his game
PROMINENT PRO-KURDISH LAWYER SHOT DEAD IN SOUTHEAST TURKEY



A campaigner for Kurdish rights, Tahir Elci had been criticized for challenging Turkey's official stance of calling the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) a terrorist organization.


www.rt.com...



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 09:14 AM
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Third Turkish journalist arrested amid fears of Ankara censorship


Local media has reported that a third Turkish reporter has been arrested, amid concern Ankara is cracking down on free speech. Yesterday, protestors took to the streets following the arrest of two other journalists.



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