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Russia Deploys Warship Off Syrian Coast To "Destroy Any Threats To Russian Planes"

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posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 02:52 AM
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Tensions mount after Russia warns of serious consequences

www.zerohedge.com...

Russia states that Turkey violated Syrian airspace where planes shot down-- zero hedge has great story about this:

The reason for the deployment:

RUSSIAN ARMED FORCES GENERAL STAFF: NONE OF OUR PARTNERS, COUNTRIES FIGHTING ISIL HAVE EVER TOLD US THAT SO-CALLED MODERATE OPPOSITION UNITS WERE IN AREA WHERE SU-24 DOWNED

NO ATTEMPTS REGISTERED ON PART OF TURKISH PLANE TO GET IN TOUCH OR ESTABLISH VISUAL CONTACT WITH OUR CREW VIA OBJECTVE CONTROL DEVICES - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINSTRY


WARSHIP TO DESTROY ANY THREATS SEEN TO RUSSIAN PLANES: IFX
Specifically, as RT reports, the steps announced by Russian top brass as the following:Three steps as announced by top brass:

Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets

Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger

Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended

Just like the downing of flight MH17 over Ukraine, it has quickly become a case of "he said, she said":

Rudskoy said the Russian warplane did not violate Turkish airspace. Additionally, according to the Hmeymim airfield radar, it was the Turkish fighter jet that actually entered Syrian airspace as it attacked the Russian bomber. The Turkish fighter jet made no attempts to contact Russian pilots before attacking the bomber, Rudskoy added.

Additional links and info at these sites:
www.independent.co.uk...
www.rt.com...


"Russian president Vladimir Putin had already warned of "serious consequences", accusing Turkey of being an "accomplice of terrorists" and the military operation a "stab in the back"" It is thought to be the first time a Nato member has shot down a Russian aircraft since the Cold War, and relations between the two nations could be severely damaged. " www.rt.com...

-Moscow plans to suspend military cooperation with Ankara after the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkish air forces, Russian General Staff representatives said on Tuesday. Further measures to beef up Russian air base security in Syria will also be taken. Three steps as announced by top brass:

-Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets
Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger

-Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended.

For one reason or another my links keep breaking, but going to the front page of RT will show the articles--pretty straightforward information as they are notes about developments which will keep turning out throughout the day..what was important about this all to me was that Putin will confront--and is calling the Turkish action as terrorist, siding and collaborating with ISIS.
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posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 03:15 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

The Independent seem very keen to get behind Putin's puffed chest, but I think everyone realises it's mostly posturing, he's been pushing his luck, and he knows it. He won't back down and admit it, obviously, but Turkey, as a bulwark, will be more widely supported against greater hostility from Putin, and Putin will continue to take the piss. Stalemate I think, not nice but hardly worthy of this level of knicker bunching by The Independent...unless their agenda is to escalate the situation.



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 03:25 AM
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originally posted by: Anaana
a reply to: tony9802

The Independent seem very keen to get behind Putin's puffed chest, but I think everyone realises it's mostly posturing, he's been pushing his luck, and he knows it.


Hasn't that been the west's standard regurgitated line on Putin since his incursion into Georgia in 2008? Seems like we've been hearing "Putin is posturing and pushing his luck. Russia is about to topple." for at least that long... seems like it would have happened by now if accurate, doesn't it? I'll be real blunt, I think Putin is far more intelligent and crafty than Obama, Merkel, and certainly Erdogan. I find most of the claims of his "luck will soon run out" and predictions of his demise-to-be to be little more than wishful thinking from a society which hasn't had to deal with a measured, disciplined world leader (of any nation) in many, many years. Hell, probably dating back to the Eisenhower administration.



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 03:28 AM
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go putin go putin,nato calling murder ok is wrong.
it was murder by the turkish and cameron should not be backing the turks on this
but he is spineless the turkish have been very suspect of late and he dam well knows it.
putin is not in stalemate he is daring them now.
he has backed his pawns up with bishops, knights and a queen
that is chess folks ,don't believe him try to bother his planes now i double dare you !!



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 03:42 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6



Posturing on both sides. Oodles of it.

No, Putin ain't toppling.



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 03:50 AM
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a reply to: stuthealien

I couldn't believe it when our government came out backing Turkey...Well I could actually. But it's a disgrace, totally against the will of the people, look at any msm that allow comments, and you will see what people really think.

People have woken up, they're not stupid anymore but the government still have their own agenda.

If this does become war, I hope many of our armed forces defect and I hope the people will march to those in government and forcibly remove them.



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 04:00 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

Yes, that is an adequate response after the pilots were murdered in cold blood in a barbaric fashion so typical of Arabic culture. They don't take prisoners of war. They like to rape you with knives.

I think I, too, would rather have a nuclear war (nuclear explosion sized hyperbole) than see the Western slimy Cabal gobbling up any more of the earth.

All the West do is put puppet governments in the states they conquer. Those states never have any peace. They are kept weak and dependent and in a constant nightmare of violence from terrorism. I am sick of watching the West do this. So is Putin.

The way U.S, Britain and France are becoming it would actually soon be a better and more free life living in Russia. There is no freedom here any more. The ugly state has imposed itself everywhere. All choice has gone. There remains all the nasty new draconian law to protect the state because it is so despised by the populations it is meant to serve NOT enslave.

Don't expect me to fight Russians or support a war against them. Don't give me a gun. I might use it on the West instead.


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posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 04:07 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

So what will the Turkish response be..



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 04:29 AM
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originally posted by: tony9802
a reply to: Revolution9

So what will the Turkish response be..


I really have no idea. Probably they will try and rape them with knives?


It will be something nasty, barbaric, backstabbing, bitchy, backbiting, blackmailing. This is what Turkey does best. Ask the Crusaders of old about that, lol. Wow, all those words are "B". I promise I did not use a Thesaurus. ATS is turning me into a walking Thesaurus I think.



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 04:42 AM
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Good on Russia, that boat sitting off the coast is a massive middle finger to the United States.

There's a clear alliance being formed against Russia, you only need to watch 10 minutes of any Murdoch Media news to see who we're being brainwashed to hate.

What happens next is incredibly crucial, if the Turks do something else stupid they're toast. If the rebels do anything massive, Then they're both fkut!

Poor Turkey.. the US knocked on the door and invited itself in.. now its taken over!



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 06:23 AM
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Not quite sure why some here think Turkey would be "toast" or in fact, why others feel the need to start slandering a whole nation as "barbaric" - it's not necessary.

But back to the point, Turkey is no push over. The largest Army in NATO with the 2nd largest Air Force and Navy. Russia would do well to tread carefully, as Turkey could own them in their own theatre. The only thing Russia has over and above Turkey is nuclear weapons and they'd be mad to follow that route.

The deployment of S-400's is a risky move, because if they start shooting down Turkish jets that "pose a threat" to their aircraft inside Turkish airspace, that is more than enough for the Turks to invoke Article 5 and no one wants that...

Both sides need to tread carefully, this could all blow over if cooler heads prevail, but if hot heads win out, it could so easily slide into something more serious.



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: stumason
Not quite sure why some here think Turkey would be "toast" or in fact, why others feel the need to start slandering a whole nation as "barbaric" - it's not necessary.

But back to the point, Turkey is no push over. The largest Army in NATO with the 2nd largest Air Force and Navy. Russia would do well to tread carefully, as Turkey could own them in their own theatre. The only thing Russia has over and above Turkey is nuclear weapons and they'd be mad to follow that route.

The deployment of S-400's is a risky move, because if they start shooting down Turkish jets that "pose a threat" to their aircraft inside Turkish airspace, that is more than enough for the Turks to invoke Article 5 and no one wants that...

Both sides need to tread carefully, this could all blow over if cooler heads prevail, but if hot heads win out, it could so easily slide into something more serious.


As others have pointed out, this is a chess game. Turkey took a couple of Russia's pawns hoping to bait Russia into moving a rook or bishop into their side of the board in revenge.

Russia had just moved their knights towards the middle of the board (S-400's into Syria). If Turkey flies their fighter jets in the wrong direction at the wrong time....



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 02:06 PM
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posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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Russia just needs to steer clear of Turkish airspace and the so called buffer zone and bomb the heebegeebees out of the oil tankers etc supplying Turkey with cheap oil and terrorist with revenue. Operate a bit deeper in Syria and Turkey are screwed with regards reprisals.

And bomb the vagzazzles out of anything entering Syria from Turkey. Once its cleared the buffer zone of course. Track, seek and destroy.

Its well reported Turkey have been aiding and abetting terrorists, more than likely including ISIS for their own nefarious reasons, and if any other patsy NATO country is doing the same their assets in the region should have the be'elzebubs bombed out of them....

Terrorists are terrorists are terrorists......as are their sponsors.......

A thoroughly pee'd off UK citizen.



posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: HumberWarrior
Russia just needs to steer clear of Turkish airspace and the so called buffer zone and bomb the heebegeebees out of the oil tankers etc supplying Turkey with cheap oil and terrorist with revenue.


Do you really think that causing a(nother) environmental disaster is really the answer?




posted on Nov, 25 2015 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: tony9802
a reply to: Revolution9

So what will the Turkish response be..


They won't back down. The Turkish Air Force Combat Air Patrols will continue and probably intensify. The only difference is that the Russians will be extra careful to not encroach Turkish airspace. No side wants an escalation so watch Russia be extra careful when operating near the border. They can't afford to make mistakes or risk a navigational error.



posted on Nov, 26 2015 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: tommyjo

But Russia are claiming that they didn't infringe Turkish airspace in the first place so what does it matter. Turkey will just shoot them down anyway.



posted on Nov, 26 2015 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: stumason
Turkish fighter jets and ground forces in/over Syria are fair game


edit on 26-11-2015 by all2human because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 26 2015 @ 12:54 AM
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