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US double standards at their finest.

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posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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The level of hypocrisy is just so over the top im having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. Mark Toner gets grilled by the awesome Gayane Chichakyan and understandably has an extremely difficult time justifying the incident of the downed Russian plane in turkey and the response given to it. confronted with a similar event from the past where it was a Turkish plane downed in Syria, where turkey was supported and Syria was demonized. but we cant expect for the US elites to be congruent.... EVER!

On another note i kind of realize how much of a pot Turkey just stirred up. It aint gonna start a war but its gonna have a drastic impact in the geopolitical space.

(is that a good enough summary? does it need to be longer? what do you want from me ATS?!)


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posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Of course there is inconsistency ... the "Russian hatred" is so vivid, you can smell it.

You can't ignore the decades of indoctrination of "The Russians are coming" ... out of the population overnight. They aren't thinking rationally.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:32 PM
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Excuse me? Why would I support Turkey downing a Russian plane? They shouldn't have done it as far as I can tell. Most of the time when Russian planes come into NATO airspace (and it happens often), they are simply escorted out. That should have been the case here.

So, I don't see the hypocrisy. Maybe you should stop painting with a broad brush.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Thanks for the post! S+F!


Double standards are double as good?

What utter US gov. stupidity! This is a new low!

Work with the Russians for goodness sake!

The cold war is over!



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

They don't actually enter the airspace. They go into the ADIZ, which is the buffer between open airspace and national airspace.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: kloejen




The cold war is over!


Or has it begun again?



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

The cold war has never been over. The bankers and other western crazies that run the world want what Russia has, and always have. They want Russia ruled by a western puppet and on it's knees like the rest of us.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:38 PM
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Turkish and coalition aircraft operate in Syria at the invitation of Government they recognize in Syria they recognize the National Coalition for Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces along with 99 other nations, the EU and the Arab League. And they operate in those areas under its control or against ISIS territory. Never in Assad's areas of control. The opposite can not be said.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: Britguy
a reply to: kloejen

The cold war has never been over. The bankers and other western crazies that run the world want what Russia has, and always have. They want Russia ruled by a western puppet and on it's knees like the rest of us.



I don't think that will happen anytime soon, I do agree thou..



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

wait what?



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:44 PM
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While the obama administration rushing to defend Turkey is hypocritical, Erdogan is the biggest turkey hypocrite in this.


Erdogan in 2012: "A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack."

I guess he forgot to add: "...unless it is to support and defend my muslim brothers in ISIS".
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posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

CNN reporting the planes were in Turkish airspace for 30 seconds. One pilot was dead when he hit the ground from gunfire.

BUT who knows? It's sometimes days or weeks before we know the story on the story.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

uhh. what does that have to do with the content of this video?



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad
A complete lie
The US-led coalition are NOT operating with the approval of the Syrian government
what was offered was an invitation to a meeting between Syrian and US officials
a meeting that never took place.

The USA and its coalition parners are invading Syria daily.
not to mention the Countless times Turkey's ground forces have bombed and crossed into Syria

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posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

I meant the Russian ones he was talking about that fly near the US and UK. They don't enter the airspace, just the ADIZ.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: Britguy

I'm afraid you are correct on that one... :/

But as bjarneorn mentioned, the 'programmed' "fear of Russia", is still lurking in many american heads..



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Definitely a double standard. NATO should be disbanded for this very reason. The U.S. and other western allies shouldn't have to intercede in another countries military posturing.

However, there's no denying that Russia has been provocative flying their planes into air space of western countries. They've done this on numerous occasions and it's been reported in the main stream media. The simple lesson Russia should take away from this...If you don't want your planes shot down, respect a countries borders and air space!



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Zaphod58

CNN reporting the planes were in Turkish airspace for 30 seconds. One pilot was dead when he hit the ground from gunfire.

BUT who knows? It's sometimes days or weeks before we know the story on the story.



As someone pointed out in comments in another forum, the gunmen were Turkmen, meaning not Turkish, but ethnic Turks who live in Syria. So, if the Russian plane was shot down in Turkish airspace, it was either just in Turkish airspace or the day was very windy to catch those parachutes and blow them into Syrian space where the Turkmen could shoot them or the Turkmen were operating in Turkey for some reason or the Turks are playing with creeping border expansion during all this chaos or the jet wasn't in Turkish airspace ...
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posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

well thats a whole other discussion. testing the waters is an essential strategy. russia does it. us does it. its just a fact of war. sadly the turks have no problem taking drastic measures when it comes to security. they killed that pretty US journalist who was investigating how they were helping isis. they pretty much DGAF.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

Except the MSM are idiots. As I said they enter the ADIZ which isn't National airspace. The MSM reported a nuclear armed Russian bomber flew directly over Guam once. Take everything they say with a big grain of salt.




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