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originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: yuppa
I say there were definitely some Muslims in America celebrating after 9/11. It wasn't a huge number, but Trumps not wrong. The problem Trump has is that his views don't fit the 'official' narrative.
I suppose I don't really care one way or the other, but I do appreciate that Trump is willing to shake things up. I would rather he be wrong than another boring candidate.
So honesty is not a consideration for you in the President (or in this case, potential President) of the United States?
What was your issue with Obama and Clinton again? Beside their political party, natch.
In my opinion, what Trump said, while utterly absurd and with no basis in fact, is exactly what most right-wingers want to hear. His blatant lies are in fact "politics as usual" on the Right. In my opinion.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
40 years ago, and the charges were dropped. This is why you call him a racist? That's not good enough.
There are white African Americans And black non-Africans.
LOL! That's where you're going with this? Jeez! That's just funny. Like you think it's possible he was sued because he wasn't renting to white Africans... I guess, tell yourself whatever you need to to maintain your position.
originally posted by: blupblup
Anyone with half a brain and who actually listens to what he says can see it, everyone else is either wilfully ignorant, agrees with Trump and shares his views or is trolling.
40 years ago, and the charges were dropped.
He later took the uncommon step of suing the Justice Department for defamation, seeking $100 million in damages. His lawyer was Roy Cohn, the infamous former Joseph McCarthy aide, who was known for his hard-ball tactics.
Cohn called up the federal official in charge of the case -- J. Stanley Pottinger, the head of DOJ’s Civil Rights division -- to demand that the lawyer handling the lawsuit be fired. Pottinger told The Huffington Post that his reaction at the time was “I don’t think so. That’s up to me and that’s not going to happen. I called [lawyer] Donna [Goldstein] into my office and said, ‘Keep up the good work.’” The suit, which Pottinger called a “media gimmick done for local consumption,” was dismissed and the judge criticized Cohn for “wasting time and paper from what I consider to be the real issues” - discriminating against blacks in apartment rentals.
Two years later, Trump Management settled the case, promising not to discriminate against blacks, Puerto Ricans and other minorities. As part of the agreement, Trump was required to send its list of vacancies in its 15,000 apartments to a civil-rights group, giving them first priority in providing applicants for certain apartments, according to a contemperaneous New York Times account. Trump, who emphasized that the agreement was not an admission of guilt, later crowed that he was satisfied because it did not require them to “accept persons on welfare as tenants unless as qualified as any other tenant.”
But the company didn’t sufficiently fulfill its promise, because three years later, the Justice Department charged Trump Management with continuing to discriminate against blacks through such tactics as telling them that apartments were not available. As part of its demands, the government asked that victims of discrimination be compensated and that Trump Management continue to report to the Justice Department on its compliance. Cohn lashed out, according to the New York Times, claiming that the court motion was “nothing more than a rehash of complaints by a couple of planted malcontents.”
But the problem persisted, prompting New York City’s human rights commission to regularly dispatch investigators to search for examples of discriminatory rental practices in Trump-owned buildings. Trump was not amused, telling the New York Times that the investigation was a “form of horrible harassment.”
Another link to another liberal hit-piece mentioning something that happened 40 years ago. Was he convicted of anything?
Now I know Trump said in his comments that what he saw was in Jersey City, which is across from lower Manhattan, but I have yet to see evidence of any wide-spread celebrations. Do I think some assholes may have been happy? Of course. Do I think it was happening in the thousands? No, I do not.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
I do remember clips of this kind of thing coming in from other regions around the world. It's entirely possible that Trump is too stupid to know the difference, or is willfully ignorant - or just doesn't give a rats ass
He's going to say whatever he wants and knows that fact checking is for the opposing teams - his team is just going to buy whatever he's selling