Turkey shot down Russian Jet: reportedly by two F16's

originally posted by: Philippines
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Russia did retaliate just now.

Updated Russian Airstrike News

BREAKING UPDATE 6:56 AM EST - 26 November 2015 -- Russian Air Force planes have just attacked and destroyed a convoy of Turkish vehicles . . . inside Syria . Turkey claims the trucks were a "relief convoy" calls the attack "an act of war." See bottom paragraph for update.

Can't find any other source substantiating that, do you know of any? Also that was over an hour ago wouldn't others be reporting?

a reply to: Philippines

Lovely.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: majesticgent

Well we know Russia wasn't attacking ISIS.

Yeah that goes without saying. Russia doesn't differentiate ISIS with any other group opposed to Assad. The question is who or what was Turkey protecting. Special forces? A rebel leader? Another valued resource?

The truth lies somewhere in the middle of what Turkey and Russia are telling us.

a reply to: majesticgent

Maybe its airspace.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: majesticgent

Maybe its airspace.

Yeah ok... Sure...

a reply to: majesticgent

So you want the truth yet dismiss anything not inline with Russian talking points?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: majesticgent

So you want the truth yet dismiss anything not inline with Russian talking points?

Not really, but if you believe it was all about a slight infraction over Turkey's airspace then you're inline with Turkey's talking points, ok so I'll throw you a nugget; how about this Turkish talking point. Egrodan said if you're attacking Turkmen then you're attacking our allies. That's who Russia was attacking and I never once said or believed that they were attacking ISIS off of Turkey's and Syria's border, so I'm not "inline with Russian talking points"

a reply to: majesticgent

But you are since russia makes no distinction. Russia blamed the weather for one incursion in october and had no excuse for the second, or the drone on the 3rd.

Why is it impossible for russia to violate turkish airspace... again?

Ukraine closes its airspace to Russia

Ha.

And ETA: Yeah, I know it's because of...gas. Or so they say.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I see russia once again uses its energy sector to bully a neighbor.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I never said they didn't incur Turkish airspace, but those F-16's were scrambled to intercept that Su-24 not to warn it or escort it off of their borders. Yes they knew it was a bomber because like I said earlier their allies in the area being bombed more than likely told them.

Turkey wants us to believe that they warned the Su-24, but I don't believe it for one second. They wanted that plane shot down and the order they were given were fire as soon as it touches our airspace, so we can have a recourse. The plane was hit and went down over Syria's airspace... It took the missiles sometime to get there that's how short of an infraction we're talking about here.

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
Listen to this Turkey blow hard spew his double speak ...what a joke of a evil creature this man is

He is a sick person "we have to hit and destroy syria, except isis" for his criminal relatives.. 00:50-01:17 video time.


here is another interesting today news. Turkey agreed that the last night convoy, was carrying weapons for them!! The link has already the option to be translated, just click your flag (located under the main article title/image)

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here is an very interesting article, from which countries, their citizens, move into Syria and join ISIS. link

from my country we have only 1 incident of a person who joined isis, but he is not Hellenic in genre, he is a syrian who lived and grow up in my country. (syrian mongoloid I could say). England, France, Belgium, Turkey and some mid-east countries are No1 contributors to ISIS.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I think it's the other way around, Ukraine are refusing to buy gas from Russia.

a reply to: majesticgent

The intercept occurred when russia ignored the warnings.

And yes you dismissed it by your response.

a reply to: angryhulk

Chicken egg.

a reply to: angryhulk

Didnt bother to read the article I see.

Long live Erdoĝan!

originally posted by: Ploutonas
here is another interesting today news. Turkey agreed that the last night convoy, was carrying weapons for them!!
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Which makes sense why they shot down Russia's Su-24 for bombing their assets supplying their allies. The real story is probably like this.

Russia: Yes our bomber was attacking anti-Syrian elements streaming into and from Turkey and we crossed Turkish airspace for a brief moment.

Turkey: We got word that our assets and allies were under attack by a Russian or Syrian bomber close to our airspace and we scrambled our fighters to meet this threat and down it as soon as it crossed our airspace which is within the rules of engagement.

Ha we'll never get that admission it's oh we were bombing ISIL yea right and didn't cross Turkish airspace!. Or oh we warned the Russians and they were in our airspace for 5 minutes, LOL c'mon man this is a supersonic capable fighter bomber not a Cessna.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: majesticgent

The intercept occurred when russia ignored the warnings.

And yes you dismissed it by your response.

The only warning they probably received was from the radar lock of the F-16's missile.

a reply to: majesticgent

Turkey released the tapes showing the warnings.