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The Turkish story simply does not add up.
originally posted by: woogleuk
BBC News are confirming it was Russian.
This is going to inflame the situation, regardless of whether or not they were violating Turkish airspace, Russia is going to be pissed off.
Time to phone my parents and tell them not to be booking any holidays in Turkey for the foreseeable future.....
The Turkish military has released an audio recording of what it says were warnings to a Russian warplane before it was shot down on the Syrian border.
"Change your heading south immediately," a voice says in English. Turkey said it had tried to rescue the SU-24 bomber's two pilots.
Was Russian aircraft shot down because its satellite navigation was wrong?
But given the Russian aircraft was only in Turkish airspace for a few seconds (and only penetrated, even by the Turks' accounting, by a little more than a mile), it's still possible that the GLONASS system used by the Russian military for navigation may have given the aircrew different information than the Turks had. GLONASS has fewer satellites than GPS, and more of its satellites follow the same orbital path. That makes positioning errors more likely. And with the complex border between Syria and Turkey (and Russia's operations against Syrian rebels taking them extremely close to that border), a slight miscalculation in flight path could put Russian pilots in Turkish airspace.
BREAKING UPDATE 6:56 AM EST - 26 November 2015 -- Russian Air Force planes have just attacked and destroyed a convoy of Turkish vehicles . . . inside Syria . Turkey claims the trucks were a "relief convoy" calls the attack "an act of war." See bottom paragraph for update.