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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I'm sorry, it's unfortunate and possibly negligent. However, I tend to agree that it does not appear the Russian jets were acting in a hostile manner toward Turkey, but in the same breath this does not excuse a airspace / border incursion with armed fighter jets...17 seconds or 17 hours is irrelevant.
originally posted by: voyger2
a reply to: Xcathdra
But is it suficient to risk a war with Russia? For 17 seconds Turkish airplane could also enter syrian airspace by mistake, in any time because of being so close to the limits of their borders. That should give anyone the right to shot down an airplane turkis or russian?
originally posted by: Xcathdra
Putin is a moron.
originally posted by: XTexan
originally posted by: SonOfThor
Is it possible that the 10 warnings happened while the Russian plane was being tracked on a course heading for the Turkish border, that it would be fired upon if it crossed the border?
Just offering an alternative view.
I'm ignorant of the way things like this work. But if I'm a Russian pilot, how do I know what the Turkish guy on the radio is saying? How do they know what frequency?
originally posted by: angryhulk
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: angryhulk
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: crazyewok
Turkey should clean it #ing house out and stop the support of terrorists!
I dont want the UK to shed one drop of blood NATO or not over a country thats backing terrorists!
Turks have had 2.5million refugees and Turks don't support ISIS .
Get your facts right .
If NATO is meant to dissolve as a result of this incident so be it .
British Interests in the Eastern Med will definetely be better when Russians are in charge , right ?
What has this got to do with refugees?
Turkey does support terrorists. Turkey provide a safe passage for terrorists, Turkey turns a blind eye to terrorists, Turkey buys stolen oil from terrorists.
Your posts in this thread totally takes the mickey .
Turks and ISIS are enemies . This little fact is unknown to you yet you have a strongly biased opinion .
Turks have their own operatives in ISIS or any other Western Created Organisation in the Middle East .
64 countries buy oil from ISIS .
Get over it .
Don't kill Anti - ISIS TURKMENS of SYRIA and NO ONE SHOOTS at the planes , capish ?
Can you provide examples of my posts that take the 'mickey'?
Look, it's clear to everybody that performs even the mildest of research on the issue that Turkey provides incredible 'indirect' support to ISIS.
So, I'm not sure what else I can say to you other than... Happy researching.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: bjarneorn
Syria can shoot down coalition aircraft then, just as turkey can when their airspace is also violated.
originally posted by: gflyg
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Even if that airspace is a 5 mile buffer zone inside syria that nobody recognizes but turkey?
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: angryhulk
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: angryhulk
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: crazyewok
Turkey should clean it #ing house out and stop the support of terrorists!
I dont want the UK to shed one drop of blood NATO or not over a country thats backing terrorists!
Turks have had 2.5million refugees and Turks don't support ISIS .
Get your facts right .
If NATO is meant to dissolve as a result of this incident so be it .
British Interests in the Eastern Med will definetely be better when Russians are in charge , right ?
What has this got to do with refugees?
Turkey does support terrorists. Turkey provide a safe passage for terrorists, Turkey turns a blind eye to terrorists, Turkey buys stolen oil from terrorists.
Your posts in this thread totally takes the mickey .
Turks and ISIS are enemies . This little fact is unknown to you yet you have a strongly biased opinion .
Turks have their own operatives in ISIS or any other Western Created Organisation in the Middle East .
64 countries buy oil from ISIS .
Get over it .
Don't kill Anti - ISIS TURKMENS of SYRIA and NO ONE SHOOTS at the planes , capish ?
Can you provide examples of my posts that take the 'mickey'?
Look, it's clear to everybody that performs even the mildest of research on the issue that Turkey provides incredible 'indirect' support to ISIS.
So, I'm not sure what else I can say to you other than... Happy researching.
I am in Istanbul and lived in Turkey for last 2 years .
I am telling you that Turks don't support ISIS . As a fellow ATS'er , I've done my job .
Feel free to ignore the opinions of ATS members who are on ground so to speak .
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: voyger2
They were warned prior to entering turkish airspace.